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To me the tie is too bold for what is clearly quite a bold suit and gives conflicting feelings (I don't think a charcoal bold stripe db suit matches the softer lavender, a dark navy or burgundy would be better).

 

The suit itself I don't think is not business, though it is on the more dramatic side for sure, and many wouldn't wear it.

 

I also I just don't like the fabric/cut.

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Thank you for the reply Isolation. The suit is actually navy, not charcoal.

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That is a question that begets many more questions.

Is it acceptable business attire? Well, first off, it depends on your business. Since you did not define what acceptable business attire encompasses at your place of work, I will assume that it is "typical SF CBD."

In which case, it is not appropriate in my opinion. Here, you have a dark navy double-breasted suit with bright white, clearly defined pinstripes, which are closely spaced together. That is just a bit too much to be business appropriate. If you are going to wear a double breasted suit in a business setting (in this day and age), I think it needs to be pretty tame, i.e., solids or discrete patterns. If you are going to wear pinstripes, they should be muted, further spaced apart, or a bit "fuzzy." In general, the more muted, spaced apart, and "fuzzy" the pinstripe is, the more conservative the pattern. I also think that pinstripes look better when they are not on worsted suits (unless they are very faint).

Pinstripes are difficult. For every good pinstripe, there are about 10,000 not-as-good pinstripes.
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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

That is a question that begets many more questions.

Is it acceptable business attire? Well, first off, it depends on your business. Since you did not define what acceptable business attire encompasses at your place of work, I will assume that it is "typical SF CBD."

In which case, it is not appropriate in my opinion. Here, you have a dark navy double-breasted suit with bright white, clearly defined pinstripes, which are closely spaced together. That is just a bit too much to be business appropriate. If you are going to wear a double breasted suit in a business setting (in this day and age), I think it needs to be pretty tame, i.e., solids or discrete patterns. If you are going to wear pinstripes, they should be muted, further spaced apart, or a bit "fuzzy." In general, the more muted, spaced apart, and "fuzzy" the pinstripe is, the more conservative the pattern. I also think that pinstripes look better when they are not on worsted suits (unless they are very faint).

Pinstripes are difficult. For every good pinstripe, there are about 10,000 not-as-good pinstripes.

Thank you, this makes a lot of sense to me. "typical SF CBD" is a good assumption. This being the case, and with me already owning this suit: when to wear the suit, if not in a business environment.

 

Edit: the suit's fabric:

 


Edited by merick - 1/12/16 at 7:27am
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Well, the distinctions between UCBD, CBD, and BD are necessarily a bit vague since in all cases we're talking about compliance with a norm where compliance is a matter of degree.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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Thank you, this makes a lot of sense to me. "typical SF CBD" is a good assumption. This being the case, and with me already owning this suit: when to wear the suit, if not in a business environment

I like the suit. I probably wouldn't wear it in a conservative office setting (the stripes are on the bolder end and DB suits are seen as more dandified than SB suits), but I'd enjoy wearing something like it. If you are going to wear it in a CBD setting, pair it with a white shirt and a very conservative solid colored or subtly patterned tie to tone it down. If your office wears suits on Fridays, that might be a decent time to wear it. I tend to think of striped suits as having a business connotation, so I wouldn't wear it to a wedding or other dressy social event. Perhaps its best to accept this as a fun but limited use suit for your current needs.
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One tie?  Dark burgundy neat.  Perfect contrast with either navy or grey, therefore wearable with all CBD or a blazer.  Don't listen to Cleav, he is insane.

Ha, good point well made! mwink[1].gif

I just don't reach for a burgundy as often as others. In fact I have a lovely burgundy gren' that I've never worn...

Shame for it really, not being used.... lurker[1].gif
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@merick since @Newcomer is too humble to say it himself, I'll say look at his recent Formosa purchase for a good, SF approved CBD striped suit.

 

Note: don't take this as a critique of your suit itself. I quite like it, though, as others have said, it is not uber conservative...definitely an in your face type of suit.

 

To make it work, if you opt to wear it in business settings,keep everything super subdued/plain. 

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@merick - it's the combination of a few things: the cut and style e.g. the very high lapel peaks, the contrasting buttons, the soft shoulders, that make it less of a formal suit.  And a strong stripe is a very confident look on the CBD scale.  I'm not saying I wouldn't wear it for business, I wear all sorts of stuff, but it really depends on your office.  

 

Either way, I think Isolation is bang on: if you're going to rock a slightly fashion-forward suit, ease off on the tie.  You can't be too stuffy as it has to work with the overall look of the suit, so a textured solid might work?  I'm thinking burgundy, brown or rust fina grenadine: muted in the colour, but with a bit of laid back character in the texture, and pinging nicely off your navy.

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Ha, good point well made! mwink[1].gif

I just don't reach for a burgundy as often as others. In fact I have a lovely burgundy gren' that I've never worn...

Shame for it really, not being used.... lurker[1].gif

 

If I didn't already have one, I'd try to steal yours.  Give it to Merick.

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If I didn't already have one, I'd try to steal yours.  Give it to @merick.

Fina or grossa?

You strike me as a fina grossa guy....
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@merick
 since @Newcomer
 is too humble to say it himself, I'll say look at his recent Formosa purchase for a good, SF approved CBD striped suit.

Note: don't take this as a critique of your suit itself. I quite like it, though, as others have said, it is not uber conservative...definitely an in your face type of suit.

To make it work, if you opt to wear it in business settings,keep everything super subdued/plain. 
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

@merick
 - it's the combination of a few things: the cut and style e.g. the very high lapel peaks, the contrasting buttons, the soft shoulders, that make it less of a formal suit.  And a strong stripe is a very confident look on the CBD scale.  I'm not saying I wouldn't wear it for business, I wear all sorts of stuff, but it really depends on your office.  

Either way, I think Isolation is bang on: if you're going to rock a slightly fashion-forward suit, ease off on the tie.  You can't be too stuffy as it has to work with the overall look of the suit, so a textured solid might work?  I'm thinking burgundy, brown or rust fina grenadine: muted in the colour, but with a bit of laid back character in the texture, and pinging nicely off your navy.

The value of your reply's is amazing. Thank you !
Edited by merick - 1/12/16 at 3:46pm
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Navy suit / white shirt / navy tie, when cut clean, can be sober or even cool. Swap in a burgundy tie and you may be sober, but never, ever cool.
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Navy suit / white shirt / navy tie, when cut clean, can be sober or even cool. Swap in a burgundy tie and you may be sober, but never, ever cool.

I agree on both counts. With perhaps one exception:

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Originally Posted by merick View Post

Is the suit I am wearing today accepted as business attire ? I got a comment it's too bold, hence my question.

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I'd wear a different tie to tone it down. Which shoes were you wearing?

 

I like that suit a lot, but yeah, it's definitely bold. Not necessarily a bad thing though.

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