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Is there a dedicated thread to discuss the optimal t-shirt to wear when exercising?

I have tried various contenders but still not reached that golden ratio of ergonomics, quality, and ubiquity (not something I have to go to Nepal to find).

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http://www.shopthefinest.com/products/orazio-luciano-navy-blue-sportcoat-1?variant=7658048709

Seems like a great deal and perfect fit for anyone in that size. Highly considering picking it up.
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Originally Posted by justinkapur View Post

http://www.shopthefinest.com/products/orazio-luciano-navy-blue-sportcoat-1?variant=7658048709

Seems like a great deal and perfect fit for anyone in that size. Highly considering picking it up.

Buttoning point looks awfully high and lapels correspondingly small. Also, it's 2 button: not 'vera napoletana'...
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Originally Posted by EliodA View Post

Buttoning point looks awfully high and lapels correspondingly small. Also, it's 2 button: not 'vera napoletana'...

Good point, didnt pay attention to that to be honest. It actually is a 3 button. If you look carefully and I just reread the "styling" part of the page. Regardless im glad someone was able to reason it out for me.
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I don't think most people would consider $1,300 a deal on a RTW sportcoat, either.

Unless you've been convinced from reading magazines about Liverano and Rubinacci that $7000 is a normal price to pay for a suit.

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I don't think most people would consider $1,300 a deal on a RTW sportcoat, either.
Unless you've been convinced from reading magazines about Liverano and Rubinacci that $7000 is a normal price to pay for a suit.

I can understand that but I have spent about $1500-$1900 on most of my jackets in the last 2 years so in relation spending $1300 for a navy blue jacket that fits well isnt a bad deal. I know pricing is relevant to everyone
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Thread Starter 
Why haven't you gone bespoke?
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2 grand should be plenty for a bespoke jacket in most parts of the world.

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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post

I don't think most people would consider $1,300 a deal on a RTW sportcoat, either.
Unless you've been convinced from reading magazines about Liverano and Rubinacci that $7000 is a normal price to pay for a suit.

I can understand that but I have spent about $1500-$1900 on most of my jackets in the last 2 years so in relation spending $1300 for a navy blue jacket that fits well isnt a bad deal. I know pricing is relevant to everyone

 

 

I wouldn't spend that much on RTW without trying on, and seeing the fabric

 

I guess it depends on STF's returns policy

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The larger point is that their return policy is store credit only. Seems like a fool's bargain just for something that says "orazio" on it.

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Why haven't you gone bespoke?

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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post

2 grand should be plenty for a bespoke jacket in most parts of the world.

Ive fit most OTR and MTM where body modifications are super minimal. Ive gotten most of my jackets from Ring and there was no need to go Bespoke.

I recently got fitted with Steed as well and they mentioned the same thing that I am a pretty easy fit and reason to go bespoke for me personally would not be beneficial for the price.
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Thread Starter 

I'm not sure that a lot of OTR is justified at the price point either though. :smarmy:

 

Steed knows better than guys on the internet, but....I still disagree with them. I mean, your stuff by and large fits fine, though there are some exceptions (as is true for most of us, myself included). But I don't think it is necessarily as flattering as it could be, assuming that bespoke is able to maximize the benefit of tailored clothing. I wouldn't dismiss bespoke. 

 

Though it also could be a symptom of cuts that you like. There aren't too many full shots of you floating around so it's hard to say, but going forward, I think it would be interesting to see you in a few more structured jackets (shoulder wise)

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Originally Posted by justinkapur View Post

http://www.shopthefinest.com/products/orazio-luciano-navy-blue-sportcoat-1?variant=7658048709

Seems like a great deal and perfect fit for anyone in that size. Highly considering picking it up.

 

You are on the West Coast, right?  If you are ever near LA, email Ian and he will let you stop in the showroom and spend as long as you want trying things on.  I think you would be very impressed.  

 

I have purchased 3 Orazio's from him...so far it is the best fitting RTW for me I can find.  I disagree about not paying this much for RTW if it happens to fit you well and you really like the style (and of course you can afford it).  I have tried multiple MTM in this price range and the OL still fits me better with much higher end fabrics and a styling most MTMs don't offer.  It won't be for everyone, but I wouldn't dismiss it just because it is in a similar ballpark as MTM.  

 

Edit:  I also think a lot of the well known bespoke shops that offer MTM are a rip off.  They are using their name to offer a MTM garment that is unimpressive IMO.  

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I'm not sure that a lot of OTR is justified at the price point either though. mwink%5B1%5D.gif

Steed knows better than guys on the internet, but....I still disagree with them. I mean, your stuff by and large fits fine, though there are some exceptions (as is true for most of us, myself included). But I don't think it is necessarily as flattering as it could be, assuming that bespoke is able to maximize the benefit of tailored clothing. I wouldn't dismiss bespoke. 

Though it also could be a symptom of cuts that you like. There aren't too many full shots of you floating around so it's hard to say, but going forward, I think it would be interesting to see you in a few more structured jackets (shoulder wise)

I definitely can agree that a bespoke jacket would be a great opportunity and I have a few more structured shouldered jackets but I dont reach to them often. I guess to me most of my stuff fits well in my opinion and not enough to have to go the bespoke route. I know there are a few folks here that are more particular....Noodles...but to me a 1/4"-1/2" variance between jackets isnt enough to justify spending more to go that bespoke route. Maybe in the future when the opportunity presents itself and I am financially able to throw more money toward a jacket I might consider bespoke.

I think this goes into the conversation and discussion a while ago about Ambrosi Napoli and bespoke trousers costing upward of $1000-$1500 which I can understand and respect those who can afford such things, but to me a really well made OTR trouser that fits well is good enough for me.

BTW I am very glad this thread is back on track talking about apparel
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I received mine over the weekend. 

 

Regrettably I didn’t take any photos straight out of the box.  The pictures to follow were taken after an overnight conditioning with Bick 4 and a subsequent polishing with Saphir.

 

Since what I’m about to share is criticism, let me say up front that I don’t regret the purchase.  At the price I paid these are decent value.

 

That said, the quality of the vamp leather is pretty poor.   The conditioning improved it, but in retrospect I wish I’d given a second overnight treatment before polishing. 

 

Here are quick shots of the two I bought:

 

 

 

 

 

The Blake construction puts the sole stitching inside the shoe:

 

 

 

This can be very uncomfortable if it rubs against your foot, as it did mine.  The fix was simple:  a $1.99 insole from my local pharmacy and the problem is gone:

 

 

 

One thing I can’t fix is that, oddly, the strap on the monk is narrower than the buckle, which not only looks odd (assuming you’re an SF person who actually looks at stuff this closely) but, more practically, makes buckling the damn thing a bit of a pain:

 

 

 

Anyway, you could do far worse for the money.

 

YMMV.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

 

Edit:  The shoes are the ‘Theo’ (oxford) and ‘Prosper’ (monks) models.

 

 

Pretty much sums up my thoughts as well.  Although I am a bit perplexed how Ron ever offered these in the $400 range...

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