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Murse: smaller than a briefcase, carried via shoulder strap
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I remember when we pretended to talk about useful things in this thread instead of arguing about this crap. A bit of advice for everyone. De-escalate. This is the internet. You can misinterpret stuff. You can say stuff that is misinterpreted. Life goes on. When in doubt, don't waste our time. If you want to waste time on this stuff, I believe we have a current events subforum.
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So you didn't write this misogynistic bullshit? Forgive me then.
 

 

Glad you found it funny.

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Delete this thread! 

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Can we talk about my murse?

 

Did you note my reply?

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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Delete this thread! 

No need to delete. There's good stuff here. We just need certain people to realize arguing on this thread is like hitting reply-all indiscriminately.
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Delete this thread! 


You're right, it got out of hand, and I'm partly responsible. Sorry about that.

 

Depending on the back-end, irrelevant sections of a thread can be excised and moved to a "new" thread, where the protagonists can keep on thrashing out their differences while everyone else gets on with the on-topic stuff. Don't know if that's possible on SF.

 

Anyway, I hope we can all still be friends. PCK1, do you have any clothing-related stuff you wish to discuss?

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I wish I had a clothing related question right about now.
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I wear relatively thick wool socks year round in south central Texas, and it's not the least bit uncomfortable, and I'm a pretty sweaty guy, at least when I'm active.  I also never understood the point of the hose-style sock, the thin little whispy silk or wool socks that are basically just light liners. May as well go barefoot. But I'll also admit to never having actually given them a fair shake by trying them out for a month or so.

 

@Isolation ,  I hear you, buddy. I generally tend to think we should refrain as much as possible from discussing anything but clothing with each other, because when the subject of women or homosexuality or politics comes up, someone is inevitably going to say something horrible, given enough time and then we have no choice but to speak up, rather than let that ugliness linger in the "room".

 

That said, I like Noodles, and I don't think he's a bad guy on the whole, but I've accepted that even people I like are going to say something awful at some point.

 

I like noodles as well, but I lost a fair bit of respect for him when his wife tried to convert me and he didn't say anything to stop it happening. 


There's a history here with him on this thread. I think you haven't seen that in the mass of ninja edits.

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Murse: smaller than a briefcase, carried via shoulder strap


Uh-oh...

 

 

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Think we need pics.





You're probably right...

 

 

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Did you note my reply?

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

 



I did, and was ruminating on it.
There are contexts where I'm not always going to be carrying a briefcase, folio, or gigantic duffel bag, you know?
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here's an interesting topic...

 

We all think of Fall colors as brown, green, orange...but what about Purple? 

 

I was flipping through the Sherry Tweed book the other day and saw a great houndstooth tweed consisting of rich chocolate brown, emerald green, and aubergine...too bold or is it acceptable?

 

There was also a very nice swatch of mottled Aubergine in a new Drapers book. Seems to me it would be pretty rakish in the evenings with a pair of dark grey flannel trousers and roll neck sweater.

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I don't think you know what strawmen are. That or you don't know what the word "if" means. At no point did I say that you hold the positions I was attacking. You might though. I wouldn't know, you never said.


Perhaps you do not realize you are perpetrating these logical fallacies so maybe it is worth pointing them out for you

"But it's quite one thing to say bipolar people have moments of mania/hypomania and depression, and quite another to assume that anything they think or say is due to their mental condition and therefore cannot be counted as their actual opinion, or their opinion would be considered invalid or less valid, not by its lack of merit, but because it came from a person who is bipolar, or depressive, or autistic, or a woman."

Who claimed that?

"in fact, there are literaly people who think women can't be president because they control nuclear weapons and what if they are on their periods, etc etc"

Are there? Are they in this thread? What relevance is this?


"The offensive part to me is using periods as a means of dismissing women's points/motivations as "purely emotional" and "unstable", highlighted especially by the irony from someone who is quite unstable calling women unstable. "

When did he say they were purely emotional or unstable?
Never?


" I don't tell noodles he's overcompensating about masculinity because he's got a small asian penis, "


.....ok ....



"It's intellectually dishonest, it's an ad hominen, it's logically fallacious, it's shoddy."

Oh the irony
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???? I did not once attribute any of that to you, or anyone specifically, but those are clearly extremely common views, ones that I had a problem with. In what way is pointing out things I think are wrong = strawmen? At worst I am wrong, ie. there aren't actually people saying those things, or you can say I haven't cited my sources or some bs like that. That doesn't = strawmen. Not to mention, there clearly are many people saying those things. You can't just entirely discount the fact that I used the word "if", and you can't discount the fact that I had to say if because you made no clear clarifications of your position at all, which is why I had to argue against a hypothetical position to begin with. If you had clearly stated instead of implied what you thought, I wouldn't have to guess and say "if".

 

You compared not using periods to define our response to a woman with me dismissing this woman's womanhood, using an analogy of mental illness, which is incredibly bad taste because of how apt an analogy it is in a way opposite to how you meant it. People with mental illness are unfairly dismissed for their mental illnesses, and you try to argue that not dismissing them is equivilent to pretending their illnesses are not real. That is absolutely vile. You entirely misrepresented my argument. At no point did I say periods aren't real, and YES you ARE saying I am saying that because you're equating what I am saying as saying that mental illnesses aren't real. I said uncritically citing periods and PMS and its debatable effects to dismiss and invalidate a woman's input is wrong.

 

The comment about noodles is an analogy, one that I clearly do not believe in, used as an example to show how absurd and bigotted it would be to use those things to invalidate someone's opinion. You realize I am asian too and have an asian penis right? You take my quote out of context and you dare to talk to me about questionable ethics and intellectual honesty in debate? lol

 

When did he imply that women are unstable? He implied it clearly, everyone in this thread knew what he meant when he said to Crust that at least he didn't have to deal with periods. Everyone knew that he didn't mean "didn't have to deal with menstral blood and pain related to it". Intellectual dishonesty lol x2

 

To clags: I am only defending myself at this point, I'd like to note. I have now blocked him.


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Did you note my reply?

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

 



I did, and was ruminating on it.
There are contexts where I'm not always going to be carrying a briefcase, folio, or gigantic duffel bag, you know?

 

'Murse' means 'male purse'.  A purse is a general purpose carry-all:  the shape is neutral to reflect its general purpose nature, which is to say you can't tell by looking at it what might be in it.

 

Contrast that, say, with the cases many musicians carry (say, violin or saxophone), most of which these days have a shoulder strap.  The shape betrays its special purpose, as would the majority of camera cases.   They therefore aren't murses.

 

By the way, why do you care what it's called?

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post
 

here's an interesting topic...

 

We all think of Fall colors as brown, green, orange...but what about Purple? 

 

I was flipping through the Sherry Tweed book the other day and saw a great houndstooth tweed consisting of rich chocolate brown, emerald green, and aubergine...too bold or is it acceptable?

 

There was also a very nice swatch of mottled Aubergine in a new Drapers book. Seems to me it would be pretty rakish in the evenings with a pair of dark grey flannel trousers and roll neck sweater.


It occurred to me the other day that green and purple do not look very good together.

 

Aubergine is not really purple. I like it and think it could be a very good autumn/fall colour. I wonder when actual aubergines come into season.

 

Can't think of many examples of aubergine-coloured clothing. Maybe in some pocket squares?

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