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One of the many advantages of having a husband rather than a wife is that my husband doesn't carry a purse (or a murse, for that matter). So much less angst than you straight boys.
Ugh...and no periods to deal with.
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Imma gonna let my wife carry my guitar and the amp. She needs a good workout. 20 pounds per item. Oh yeah~
post #32313 of 37396
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I would have expected that from the likes of you, you, you -- shoe hater.

Gold Toe is ony sold in malls, correct? And those things are thick enough to kill a wombat with. Proper athletic socks.


I have a number of Gold Toe wool-blend Windsors, as well as a number of pure wool Gammarelli.  GT aren't much thicker, nor are they any worse, necessarily, than the Gammarelli.  The Gammarelli are softer and more breathable, but the trade-off is that they don't hold their shape very well.  The Gold Toe look great, hold up all day, and are better for the winter months.  

 

This idea that quality socks should never under any circumstances contain a molecule of synthetics is pure twaddle left over from the seventies.  Pure wool and cotton socks never worked at all well until recently, and even now have a number of significant drawbacks.  The newer synthetics really do help the sock perform as it ought.

 

Gold Toes in navy and dark grey are, for all aesthetic purposes, indistinguishable from more expensive pure wool socks.  I mean, my Gammarellis have a gorgeous, sensual hand that feels great when I put them in my drawer.  However, nobody's lovingly stroking your socks.  And if someone is, I think they like you well enough that the deal can be sealed without Gammarelli.

 

Also, they wear out about three times quicker than Gold Toe, so you have to factor that into the already elevated price.  I tend to buy Gammarelli for warmer months, and when I want awesome colors that aren't available in cheaper socks.  The planet has become so brutally, horrifically hot that I rarely wear socks at all in summer now.  Call me an iGent if you want, preferably while you are wringing the sweat out of your clothes.

 

An even better budget sock that the Gold Toe is the Land's End wool OTC.  Works great; it's a little lighter and softer.  

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Seemingly stupid question(s) shog[1].gif I have a pair of shoes with soles that have gotten really slick but they aren't worn to the point of needing to be replaced, IMO. The other day at Target I had to shuffle around to avoid eating shit. I am guessing this happens to others at times. What do you do - take sand paper to the bottoms to rough them up again? Or do you just re-sole? Is this a sign that they need to be replaced?

 

Never actually heard of this. You sure you aren't worn through and just skating around on your socks?

 

Bresciani, that is. Gold Toe socks would be too coarse to achieve any slippage.


Edited by sprout2 - 12/4/15 at 3:00pm
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I have a number of Gold Toe wool-blend Windsors, as well as a number of pure wool Gammarelli.  GT aren't much thicker, nor are they any worse, necessarily, than the Gammarelli.  The Gammarelli are softer and more breathable, but the trade-off is that they don't hold their shape very well.  The Gold Toe look great, hold up all day, and are better for the winter months.  

 

This idea that quality socks should never under any circumstances contain a molecule of synthetics is pure twaddle left over from the seventies.  Pure wool and cotton socks never worked at all well until recently, and even now have a number of significant drawbacks.  The newer synthetics really do help the sock perform as it ought.

 

Gold Toes in navy and dark grey are, for all aesthetic purposes, indistinguishable from more expensive pure wool socks.  I mean, my Gammarellis have a gorgeous, sensual hand that feels great when I put them in my drawer.  However, nobody's lovingly stroking your socks.  And if someone is, I think they like you well enough that the deal can be sealed without Gammarelli.

 

Also, they wear out about three times quicker than Gold Toe, so you have to factor that into the already elevated price.  I tend to buy Gammarelli for warmer months, and when I want awesome colors that aren't available in cheaper socks.  The planet has become so brutally, horrifically hot that I rarely wear socks at all in summer now.  Call me an iGent if you want, preferably while you are wringing the sweat out of your clothes.

 

An even better budget sock that the Gold Toe is the Land's End wool OTC.  Works great; it's a little lighter and softer.  

 

Not anti-synthetics. Even most high end sized socks contain some elastic in the rib so that it fits better.

It's more about the thickness. Most are knitted with too low a gauge.

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Imma gonna let my wife carry my guitar and the amp. She needs a good workout. 20 pounds per item. Oh yeah~

 

You must have an exceptionally heavy guitar. And not a combo amp.

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Come on, that's uncalled for. No one is asking or forcing you to change your views, and in fact everyone's been quite mild and polite with how they're disagreeing with you when they do, but you don't have to come out with that period bs when you know very well that's offensive and sexist. You're just being intentionally antagonistic here.

 

Like you of all people have the least right to complain about women's supposed "emotional instability". The irony is off the charts.

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Not anti-synthetics. Even most high end sized socks contain some elastic in the rib so that it fits better.

It's more about the thickness. Most are knitted with too low a gauge.


The synthetic thing wasn't aimed at you particularly.  I did notice some anti-synthetic sentiment somewhere here, though.

 

Yeah, they are coarser, but my Shetland sweaters are coarser than my merino polo sweaters.  I wouldn't say one is inferior to the other.

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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post
 

 

Not anti-synthetics. Even most high end sized socks contain some elastic in the rib so that it fits better.

It's more about the thickness. Most are knitted with too low a gauge.

 

This. Yarn gauge is 90% of a fine sock and the needle stitching etc.

 

Though i would emphasise the point that synthetics in socks simply sucks. My anti-synthetic stance is not just for highfalutin purposes; i mainly wear wool socks and  IME wool-blended with synthetics (i am stating less than 85% wool) really pills and struggles to stay up.

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The synthetic thing wasn't aimed at you particularly.  I did notice some anti-synthetic sentiment somewhere here, though.

 

Yeah, they are coarser, but my Shetland sweaters are coarser than my merino polo sweaters.  I wouldn't say one is inferior to the other.

 

Uh oh, this feels like McCarthyism...!

I treat it as underwear. While I grok that a chunky, thicker wool sock could have some applications for a ramblin around the mountaintops outfit (and I do have a few for such purposes -- namely in a sandy beige, I think Marcoliani), I'm more comfortable wearing fine high gauge socks even with a Shetland sweater. I want constancy and streamlining, not changing my toothpaste seasonally.

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My spouse occasionally has a filson briefcase packed full with hardcover 17th century literature, which I have to help carry on top of my own, so I'm not entirely sure if it's an improvement. =[

Well, you get about +10 points for carrying around vintage stuff (in this case old literature). Probably cancels out anything else.
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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post
 

 

Uh oh, this feels like McCarthyism...!

I treat it as underwear. While I grok that a chunky, thicker wool sock could have some applications for a ramblin around the mountaintops outfit (and I do have a few for such purposes -- namely in a sandy beige, I think Marcoliani), I'm more comfortable wearing fine high gauge socks even with a Shetland sweater. I want constancy and streamlining, not changing my toothpaste seasonally.


I think this disagreement may be a miscommunication stemming from the fact that Gold Toe makes about 400 kinds of socks.  

 

I'm referring only to their wool-blend, dress OTC "Windsor" sock.  It is maybe a half-millimeter thicker than any other dress sock, and maybe thinner than some.  It's only noticeably thinner than the Gammarellis because they are particularly light.

 

I think you may be thinking of their gazillion boot/athletic-crossover type socks, which is what they mostly sell at the mall.  

 

In any case, I'm in complete agreement about not fussing with the socks too much, which is the reason I wear Gold Toes.  Nobody can tell the difference, including me.

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Ah, that clarifies everything. I thought they made one kind of sock.

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Originally Posted by MrTRC View Post
 

 

This. Yarn gauge is 90% of a fine sock and the needle stitching etc.

 

Though i would emphasise the point that synthetics in socks simply sucks. My anti-synthetic stance is not just for highfalutin purposes; i mainly wear wool socks and  IME wool-blended with synthetics (i am stating less than 85% wool) really pills and struggles to stay up.


I'm certainly not gonna start a war about it; honestly if money were no object I would just get barrelfuls of Bresciani and Gammarelli, and throw them out whensoever I felt a loss of zing.

 

But since money is an object, I'm just telling folks I haven't had any pilling or sagging problems with any of my synthetic-infused socks (which I did choose carefully, I must say).  I'm not sure of the content of either the Toe d'Or or Land's End.  I would guess they are at the very least 80% wool.  I have had occasional sagging problems with my high-end pure wool socks, though.  My cheap socks also outlast my expensive ones.

 

There is also the consideration that for the price difference, if your Land's Ends start to pill after four-five months, you could simply use them for toilet paper, whip a fresh pair off the roll, and still have a pair or two left over before you've spent as much as one pair of Bresciani.  Just sayin'.

 

I'm certainly not against people with means buying crazy luxury socks just because they like the feel.  Hell, get yourself a pair of ermines and stick your feet up their assholes and walk around like that with a giant crown on.  I'm not in a position to throw any stones.  But the idea that a good consumer-grade, mostly-wool dress sock is necessarily garbage just isn't true.

 

On a side note—not accusing you or anyone in particular—but buying cotton athletic socks with no elastane/Lycra is just some backwards-ass shit.  I'm old enough to remember when there were just pure cotton gym sox and pure nylon gym sox, and the cotton ones sucked.  SUCKED.  Even the pure nylon ones were better.  Just in case anyone reading this is wondering about the glory days of pure cotton.

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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post
 

Ah, that clarifies everything. I thought they made one kind of sock.


Well, you did seem to bang on as though I were talking about some sort of North Face Tenzing Norgay Endorsement Model sock.  It's a dress sock.  It's very slightly thicker than my Italian Papal Endorsement Model sock. 

 

Not that it really matters.  You say tomato, I wear cheap socks occasionally.  

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