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I've never heard of no brown with charcoal, but agree the brown's natural partner is navy.
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So what's the natural partner to charcoal? Navy or Burgundy/wine? I prefer the later
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I've heard crotchety old guys who dress with absolute confidence tell me brown shoes are beyond the pale with charcoal suits, though burgundy is allowable. I've had other, angrier old guys tell me that burgundy works with either and that brown shoes are only for shades of brown.

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We're talking about ties, not shoes right?
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Originally Posted by YRR92 View Post

I've heard crotchety old guys who dress with absolute confidence tell me brown shoes are beyond the pale with charcoal suits, though burgundy is allowable. I've had other, angrier old guys tell me that burgundy works with either and that brown shoes are only for shades of brown.

I never opined either of the above, and I'm not that crochety. satisfied.gif
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We're talking about ties, not shoes right?

 

Yes, but I've heard the case made against shoes more than ties. I think the crochety old guy rule for brown ties is just a firm "No," at least based on conversations I've had.

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I never opined either of the above, and I'm not that crochety. satisfied.gif

Yeah, but you're not that old, either!

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We're talking about ties, not shoes right?
Ties

But with shoes, black is still the most suitable color with charcoal suits. Next in line would be burgundy but very dark brown would work but I'd rather just wear black.
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Could just be the lighting, but compared with Elio's, @sebastian mcfox
 's fit suffers from a lack of textural contrast between tie and suit fabrics.

It's not in any way a bad fit, just a bit boring. It lacks the pop which would be provided by a more textured tie.

Also Elio, don't ever change those specs. They suit you perfectly.

Thanks. I like them quite a bit myself, too. The double chin not so...
[...]

 

Heh.  Wait 'till you see what's going to happen in about ten years.  :)

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

We're talking about ties, not shoes right?
Ties

But with shoes, black is still the most suitable color with charcoal suits. Next in line would be burgundy but very dark brown would work but I'd rather just wear black.

 

Yes.  I even wear black with midnight blue (and on occasion with true navy, which as you all know is much darker than much of what gets marketed these days as 'navy').

 

All I can say about the rest is that the lighter blue the suit the more likely I am to go brown. 

 

If I had oxblood or dark burgundy oxfords I'd wear them quite happily with mid-to-darkish blue suits, but my only burgundy/oxblood shoes are derbies/bluchers and they'd not be formal enough for my distinctly city collection of suits.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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Londoner here says black shoes are good with blue come onnn.

 

I actually think black can work well even with lighter blues. The key issue with black is that it is sleek but lacks character, so you wearing black with a light blue that is on the bold side works better than the tan/cognac, whereas a light muted blue (esp in a rustic weave, twill, flannel, etc) like airforce or slate works better with brown.

 

But I do prefer brown shoes of course.

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Brown is perfectly lovely with charcoal dark grey. Stop clutching your security blankets and live a little.

(Those suits look dark gray to me, not charcoal which I consider to be only a few shades lighter than black.)
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Brown is perfectly lovely with charcoal dark grey. Stop clutching your security blankets and live a little.

(Those suits look dark gray to me, not charcoal which I consider to be only a few shades lighter than black.)

 

This is my definition. 

 

It used to be everyone's.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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Anyone here have any experience with an Osaka-based bespoke house by the name of Coccinella?

 

@kulata (I think) mentioned them here on SF a year or so ago. They have some nice pics on their tumblr.

 

I will be passing through Osaka a couple of times early next year and thought, maybe I should give them a try. But I can't find any independent reviews about them online. Just one slightly suspect puff-piece here.

 

Seems they opened shop in 2008 and their tailors trained in Florence. That's about it.

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Accidentally creased one of my favourite silk ties - any way this can be fixed?

I've tried rolling it up for a few days

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Anyone here have any experience with an Osaka-based bespoke house by the name of Coccinella?

@kulata
 (I think) mentioned them here on SF a year or so ago. They have some nice pics on their tumblr.

I will be passing through Osaka a couple of times early next year and thought, maybe I should give them a try. But I can't find any independent reviews about them online. Just one slightly suspect puff-piece here.

Seems they opened shop in 2008 and their tailors trained in Florence. That's about it.

I mentioned them and prices are damn reasonable too. If what they put on social media is any indication of their quality then it's a slam dunk deal
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