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post #31141 of 37405
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And let's be honest. Some of the state side retailers have been gouging the price for quite some time. 

Thats what I'm saying, thatthe US retailers are making the Euro shoemakers set resell prices so they can keep their margins, and not get undercut.

post #31142 of 37405
Okay got it! We are on the same page fistbump.gif

For me though, it is less undercutting than just setting a reasonable price. For some reason, the prices for Carmina are just all over the board. Haven't seen another brand with such price discrepancies.
post #31143 of 37405
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Thats what I'm saying, thatthe US retailers are making the Euro shoemakers set resell prices so they can keep their margins, and not get undercut.

Nothing like those $600 Armoury prices lol...for calf, no less.

post #31144 of 37405
The same pair of suede Carminas I bought on their site in June went up from $350 to $450. If they had always been $450 it's hard to say whether I would have pulled the trigger initially; maybe so. That price for boots seemed more reasonable.

It's always hard to swallow a 25%+ price hike, but knowing it was to align with very few American retailers seems counterintuitive to me as a strategy if they are trying to increase their share of the American market. Outside of Styleforum, I don't know anyone who's heard of Carmina - at $350-$400 retail they could have taken on AE, TBNY, etc. and undercut Alden, which seems like a nice place to be for the quality they represent. At $450 - $600 they are a luxury brand without brand recognition from a country that doesn't have the same fashion prestige as many of its neighbors.

But hey, I'm not running their business smile.gif
post #31145 of 37405
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The same pair of suede Carminas I bought on their site in June went up from $350 to $450. If they had always been $450 it's hard to say whether I would have pulled the trigger initially; maybe so. That price for boots seemed more reasonable.

It's always hard to swallow a 25%+ price hike, but knowing it was to align with very few American retailers seems counterintuitive to me as a strategy if they are trying to increase their share of the American market. Outside of Styleforum, I don't know anyone who's heard of Carmina - at $350-$400 retail they could have taken on AE, TBNY, etc. and undercut Alden, which seems like a nice place to be for the quality they represent. At $450 - $600 they are a luxury brand without brand recognition from a country that doesn't have the same fashion prestige as many of its neighbors.

But hey, I'm not running their business smile.gif

I wish you were though.

My current stance would be alden for boots and carmina for oxfords/bluchers. Is carmina quality really better than that of alden? If they're about equal then the added value of being able to see and try on the shoes just might put alden ahead of carmina for me.
Would the 450 from skoak represent the grand total? (Or would taxes be added on top of the 450?)
post #31146 of 37405
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I wish you were though.

My current stance would be alden for boots and carmina for oxfords/bluchers. Is carmina quality really better than that of alden? If they're about equal then the added value of being able to see and try on the shoes just might put alden ahead of carmina for me.
Would the 450 from skoak represent the grand total? (Or would taxes be added on top of the 450?)

I don't own anything from Alden. I can say that Carmina's finishing is noticeably better than AE's. If you're from the U.S., then $450 includes shipping and customs.
post #31147 of 37405
I've only bought direct from the Carmina site so I'm not sure about Skoak though I'm sure plenty of people who frequent this thread have.

Direct from the site you don't pay shipping, but you will pay customs if you live outside of the EU or I'd imagine you pay VAT if you live inside it. Not really sure where that nets out but I can say customs on my $350 shoes was about $23 if memory serves. So more like $375 when all was said and done.

I do think that online and in-person retail prices should be close to the same whenever possible, with sightly higher brick-and-mortar being understandable since you gain the safety of trying them on, have a close-by return policy, you're getting the service of the person helping you, and often you'll see make-ups in stores you can't get online.

If Carmina's US retailers (I know of only two in all of California, though there certainly could be more) could regularly sell them for $350 - $400 and make a decent margin it seems like a win for everyone and more retailers would get on board. Then they can slowly increase pricing over time like everyone else. Again, though, they may have a very different strategy and wish to keep it extremely selective.
post #31148 of 37405
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I wish you were though.

My current stance would be alden for boots and carmina for oxfords/bluchers. Is carmina quality really better than that of alden? If they're about equal then the added value of being able to see and try on the shoes just might put alden ahead of carmina for me.
Would the 450 from skoak represent the grand total? (Or would taxes be added on top of the 450?)

I believe the answer is yes, but I believe @Leaves could be of far more assistance than I...

post #31149 of 37405

That green one looks great! What's the fabric number/designation, please?

post #31150 of 37405

^He's listing it as for sale. I don't think that particular tie is currently listed as available on the Hober site. I might have bought the green tie already if not for the hassle/expense of trying to have it sent across the border.

post #31151 of 37405

Yep, I is dumb. Not a new revelation necessarily, but there you are....

It's a great tie and I've been looking for nice greens and browns (on Hober!), so was wondering where that one came from.

Thanks for cluing me in!

post #31152 of 37405

I missed out on that green fabric from Hober.  Was really bummed to learn it would not be restocked.

post #31153 of 37405

Folks should check out the LuxeSwap thread right now. Lots of Yellow Hook Neckties on sale.

post #31154 of 37405

Looking for a medium brown suede belt that I can wear with chocolate or tobacco suede shoes. What do you guys think of this? The only thing I'm not sure about is the bronze buckle. 

 

http://www.dents.co.uk/shop/heritage/12-4504-suede-feather-edge-belt/

post #31155 of 37405
Will this work with the charcoal tweed?
I wasn't ready for the shot. Fit looked good.

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