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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post

I have something to confess. I often confuse EliodA and Gerry Nelson because of the structure of their facial hair and generally high quality photography where the subject is facing left with light coming in on a diagonal.

@clapeyron and I occasionally coordinated avatars to confuse people.
post #30512 of 37396
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Originally Posted by emptym View Post
 

I'm guessing there are better ways to get noticed and build character than wearing a jacket when your colleagues don't.  I could be wrong though.

 

That's not the point.

post #30513 of 37396
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

Old "Foot Long" Juan said the same thing to me when I did time.

Before or after his hammering?
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Originally Posted by EliodA View Post

LOL, I do understand. I'm just shocked that young guys like you and Newc seem to be so afraid of being noticed. And I have my doubts that strict conformism is going to help you go far in your workplace. All it does is creating corporate drones.

The nail that doesn't stick out will rust away unnoticed. Don't be afraid of getting hammered every now and then. That's character building.
I was channeling foo when I wrote this

I do agree with newc to a point though, monkeyface wrote about this a few weeks ago - not out dressing your superiors, something about people checking your tie/suit brands
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This thread bringing the lulz

post #30516 of 37396
Thread Starter 
Can't recall. Selective memory.

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I dress like most my current peer group. Purely incidental. Though I've gotten bemused remarks about dressing in a bespoke suit one day and shorts, pumas, and a polo the next (as opposed to sticking to one of the other)
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

Can't recall.

I dress like most my current peer group. Purely incidental. Though I've gotten bemused remarks about dressing in a bespoke suit one day and shorts, pumas, and a polo the next (as opposed to sticking to one of the other)

You are ready

post #30518 of 37396
Thread Starter 
I stick out that much Foot Long'll find me. He'll find all of us sooner or later. And not even squirrel man Tommy Chong can save us.
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

I dress like most my current peer group. Purely incidental. Though I've gotten bemused remarks about dressing in a bespoke suit one day and shorts, pumas, and a polo the next (as opposed to sticking to one of the other)

 

That almost sounds like a line from an interview w/ a prof in my hometown:

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How would you characterize the way Americans dress today? What’s the contemporary visual culture like now?

Well, I would certainly say that there are, above all, so many more choices than there have ever been before. There’s also a tendency like never before to alternate styles. People will one day dress very conservatively and then the next day wear something much more dramatic, much less formal.

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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post
 

I have something to confess. I often confuse EliodA and Gerry Nelson because of the structure of their facial hair and generally high quality photography where the subject is facing left with light coming in on a diagonal.

 

Gerry is the good looking one.

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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post
 

Here is my theory. I think this is not a theory but already happening.

 

As tailored clothing falls out of favor and the suit goes the way of the dingo as formal office wear, those who wear suit and tie or jacket and tie will increasingly do so as a mark of freedom or self-expression as free agents. For the last X decades, when the suit still had currency, those who made it in unconventional/anti-establishment means (artists, moviemakers/Internet entrepreneurs) adopted a bohemian and louche form of dress. Once the suit becomes totally meaningless and they are wearing khaki pants on Wall Street (let me know if this is already the case, guys), I think the self-made and creative set will adopt it as a totem of power and style. Since the whole process of ordering clothing, tracking down ancient thirst, etc., etc., requires so much arcana and flying in the face of common sense, it's perfect for freethinkers. I'm not talking about Silicon Valley per se, since that is a corporate culture in its own right, but I'm talking about the lone author or Internet pornographer who does well and decides to commission suits because, well, why the fuck not?

 

If I were a junior somethingorother I would totally be concerned about coming across as a relentless fop. Also, if I were a retiree I would probably enjoy spending 15 minutes with my super ironing doohickeys (unrelated, but just continuing that conversation from before). In fact, it kind of blows my mind that some of you work 9-5s and have to wear suits to work and still manage to avoid burnout with respect to tailored clothing.


Interesting. I've never worked in a "suit and tie" environment (education mostly, from primary schools through higher education) and have always liked being more formally dressed, even though virtually no one else in those places of work did so. They are also places where a bit of "free thinking" is allowed; sadly, more often for the people who work there than the students themselves. I suspect that if I had gone into a very formal industry that required suit and tie all the time I would have less of an interest in the nuances we discuss here, though I may be wrong, of course.

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A sign resides in my office, it reads: You can never be overdressed or overeducated.

Of course, it is not an infallible maxim....white tie to a beach party, etc (I can't think of a genuine reason to limit one's education).

I used to stick out, but now people don't notice, and now I'm the dept head, so so what if they do?
post #30523 of 37396
There is no right or wrong answer to this debate.

If you keep your jacket on..fine. if you take it off...also not an issue.

However, I CHOOSE to keep it on. I don't keep it on or take it off based on what others do.
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@Coxsackie
Ok. I just arrived. Where are you?
post #30525 of 37396
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Originally Posted by Cao Cao View Post

Dang. I guess I am really slow at ironing. I take about 15min

Fifteen minutes for one shirt?!?! That IS slow! Yikes!
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