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Is this going to get hashed out again? If anyone thinks this saga would have been any different had noodles invested in susu, Samuelsohn, canali, Kent wang, or any other brand, I think you fundamentally misunderstand the person we are dealing with.
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Thread Starter 

People react very differently to a $2000 suit than to a $700 suit. With one, you expect something close to perfect. The other, you'll allow more leeway. Not saying that Noodles wouldn't have a picnic attack if his 5th Lazio had something wrong with it, but it wouldn't have been as extreme.

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I don't think that's what newcomer said though
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Originally Posted by justinkapur View Post

But noodles the one thing I'll say is if I remember you have 3 or 4 formosas right? Only 1 didn't fit you? You can't knock the brand for 1 not being perfect. From others experience there is slight variation between each piece.

I agree there are pieces that are cheaper and fit you better because of their cookie cutter production but that doesn't mean you can knock another brand if one out of 3 or 4 didn't fit well.

I would disagree here, rather strongly. While this doesn't pertain to Formosa, as I do not have experience (and as such, would not wish to poopoo a very well regarded product), I would absolutely expect better than a 75% success rate when it comes to the fit of a $2,000+ product.

 

That said, I can't imagine there would be enough variation in the production process (of Formosa, in this case) for a piece to go from "perfect" to a rather poor fit.

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I'm just getting sick of the passive aggressive rehashing of something had been repeatedly hashed out ad nauseum. There is a thread about this on SF and DW. Just deal with it there? This thread had finally returned to a discussion of, you know, menswear.

And price has little correlation to good fit. Price is a better indicator of hand work and fabric. Fabric, in particular, is a huge factor in price.
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^ Agreed

It seems like the people directly involved had put it to rest as best they could so I'm not sure why there's any reason for the subject to come up again.
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Originally Posted by ericgereghty View Post

I would disagree here, rather strongly. While this doesn't pertain to Formosa, as I do not have experience (and as such, would not wish to poopoo a very well regarded product), I would absolutely expect better than a 75% success rate when it comes to the fit of a $2,000+ product.

That said, I can't imagine there would be enough variation in the production process (of Formosa, in this case) for a piece to go from "perfect" to a rather poor fit.

It's called small sample size.
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I see I accidentally "thumbed" Noodle's last post. I really didn't mean to, not because I take any sides in this whole Formosa/Noodles debacle, it's just I don't care.

Wanna go for SS? Let's see some models on, and get on with the GNA.
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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

Is this going to get hashed out again? If anyone thinks this saga would have been any different had noodles invested in susu, Samuelsohn, canali, Kent wang, or any other brand, I think you fundamentally misunderstand the person we are dealing with.

Agree. But Noodles brought it up...after saying that he was done with SF..over and over again. People just responded.
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Originally Posted by ericgereghty View Post
 

I would disagree here, rather strongly. While this doesn't pertain to Formosa, as I do not have experience (and as such, would not wish to poopoo a very well regarded product), I would absolutely expect better than a 75% success rate when it comes to the fit of a $2,000+ product.

 

That said, I can't imagine there would be enough variation in the production process (of Formosa, in this case) for a piece to go from "perfect" to a rather poor fit.

 

While I have no experience with the product, it's probably a bit unfair to surmise that the "success rate" is 75%.

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All names aside, I don't think we would throw a picnic attack over a $100 suit. But with a $1,000 suit, people will expect better and will nitpick if the suit does not meet his expectations. No names. Just a comparison.

Lile efv said, letz get some SuSu pix and move on.
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Thanks for all the input on the shoes posted yesterday, fellas.

It's a tough call - I do think overall the pebble is more versatile, though perhaps the less interesting of the two. The stitching on the suede may not be ideal but it's also not a dealbreaker to me; it's actually the polo suede color that worries me a bit in terms of how to wear them, in respect to the light(er) shoe conversation going on in the CM lounge right now and that they resolve a bit reddish from what I've seen in real-life pics.

The even-lighter suede that @Newcomer posted I just don't think I have a use for (yet).

I'll mull it over a bit more, and may not buy either happy.gif
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Originally Posted by JezeC View Post

While I have no experience with the product, it's probably a bit unfair to surmise that the "success rate" is 75%.

You are most likely right. I was using the figures presented by Justin. I have no reason (again, by virtue of no experience) to expect such a mediocre return from Formosa. For the price, coupled with the many satisfied customers here, I'd imagine it would be MUCH higher.
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JCM, a quick aside--I really like the color of suede that you posted. However, I am just not that big of a fan of the toe treatment on the suede. It just looks a little clunky.

I prefer the toe treatments on the pebble grain (I like this one the best), and then I also like the stitching on the tan suede one I posted.
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

It's called small sample size.

Which, to my previous post, should be irrelevant in my opinion. For the price, and reputation, I would not expect errors to the point that I could classify the product as poor. If it happened, I would expect steps to be taken to correct any issues.

Note: this is no way agrees to Noodles' assessment of his Formosa experiences, as I do not have knowledge of the pieces in question. I'm just against the idea that significant issues/incongruities in for should be the price of doing business, because the maker doesn't use "cookie cutter" methods.
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