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You get SF emails? I just use site only notifications for everything. So much easier. I probably should set an email notification for PM's, though.

Also, Caustic's post should be read as: Anyone who does not like me, please post over and over all day long.
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Email notes is how I have been doing things for years. As inconvenient as it can be to get 1000 email notifications a day from one thread (I have actually unsubscribed from this thread for long periods) it is better than having to come back and check the site all the time.

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One of the complicated things about the university is that it’s committed in principle to the rule of reason.  That makes it impossible for your boss to tell you that you need to conform to an undeniably arbitrary code of dress.   Thus all of these things are just simmering beneath the surface, unacknowledged.

 

 Like every other human institution the principles on which the modern university is founded are more representative of its aspirations than its accomplishments, of course.   But that doesn’t mean the aspirations aren’t important.  Quite the contrary.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac


Interestingly, I've never had a boss mention it other than extremely positively (students mostly dig it, too), it's my colleagues. Which, as the ants will tell you, makes more sense.

I DID have a Department Chair once come by my office in my first academic post to basically say "stop coming in from 8 AM to 6 PM every day, it's freaking people out". That was one time I was happy to go with the flow!

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Wait wut?
That is something I would never say...and rarely would have need to, sadly.
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Interestingly, I've never had a boss mention it other than extremely positively (students mostly dig it, too), it's my colleagues. Which, as the ants will tell you, makes more sense.
I DID have a Department Chair once come by my office in my first academic post to basically say "stop coming in from 8 AM to 6 PM every day, it's freaking people out". That was one time I was happy to go with the flow!
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@Academic2 my grandfather was a professor back in the day and I heard some horror stories about how snooty, territorial, and close minded some could be. I can only imagine what it's like today
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Wait wut?
That is something I would never say...and rarely would have need to, sadly.


Yeah, I was "threatening" for all kinds of reasons: wore a suit/jacket and tie to teach, was in my office lots, was literally half the age of most of my colleagues, etc. You know, very serious aggressions on my part....Basically, it was a department plagued with people who were just trying to get by with the minimum, and I wasn't playing along with the rules/culture. I am certain this is an issue in all lines of work; the particulars of mine were funny (you know, after I left).

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I think a picnic attack would actually be useful in flushing out the supposed "trolling." 

I think everyone is in their JOKER mode now.

 

Will do! :slayer:

Bring it on, dude

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Is there anyway to fact check the claims of career suicide if you out-dress people in the office? Maybe I'm skeptical because it sounds so absurd and I've never heard of a thing, but it seems far fetched IMO.

Probably no quantifiable way, but it is most certainly a real thing.

 

Obviously, "career suicide" is over the top, but I have absolutely been victim of the "out of touch" moniker for wearing suits to an office where shirt and tie (truly appalling, I know) was the norm. The most galling of it all was that this was supposedly a professional conservative environment lol.

 

Note: the alligator cowboy boots did NOT go over well there on casual friday!

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Pinic Attack Initiated.

So a coworker asked me why my eyes are so small. Then I started thinking maybe it is because I am wearing a 3r2 button suit. I think I want to change all my 3r2 button suits to 2 button suit so that they don't make my eyes appear smaller and so that I would fit in with the josabanK's crowd at the office. I really think I should get rid of the top button cus it makes my eyes appear smaller.

Do you think it's because the shape of the extra buttonhole is similar to the shape of an eye, and since the buttonhole is smaller than a real eye, it tricks you into seeing your eyes as smaller?

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It's kind of a weird inverse slippery slope at least where I am generally in LA. It's so relaxed and as I said so many people just don't give a shit that to not dress better than them would require going to Jos. A. Bank and intentionally dressing badly.
I believe in this more generally in that it is more often helpful than harmful overall. Feeling somewhat stuck in the middle I would prefer to err on the side of looking good and being perceived as such as opposed to schleppy and middling just to fit in.

I think both trains of thought are accurate. Being put together is great for one off and/or first time meetings, whereas consistently being more put together than someone (colleagues, etc) can definitely cause resentment, or, at the very least, some raised eyebrows.

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