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Well I meant how people actually felt, rather than them saying they feel one way (because of outward pressure), but actually thinking something else inside.

 

But I am sure some people do just go with the flow.


I get what you are saying. I don't think it's conscious. I just think that it's easy to "change your mind" when everyone else around you is already starting to change their minds. Our ape brains, I suspect, make us believe we are actually having a personal epiphany when we are really just going with the trend.

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I get what you are saying. I don't think it's conscious. I just think that it's easy to "change your mind" when everyone else around you is already starting to change their minds. Our ape brains, I suspect, make us believe we are actually having a personal epiphany when we are really just going with the trend.

 

SF is a perfect example of this. 

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SF is a perfect example of this. 


Exactly. Here we bring things full circle and hence the changing attitudes about brown suede shoes.

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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post
 


I get what you are saying. I don't think it's conscious. I just think that it's easy to "change your mind" when everyone else around you is already starting to change their minds. Our ape brains, I suspect, make us believe we are actually having a personal epiphany when we are really just going with the trend.

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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

People do not care what brands you wear or what your labels say in Big Law.  Nor do they care if your suit fits better than most partners' suits.  They do care, however, if you are the type of person to let others know how much you spend on clothes and the brands you wear.  Stated another way, if you are the type of person to let others know these facts, you will not last long.

Exactly. You can look nice, wear nice stuff, just do so quietly. When a co-worker asked me one casual Friday "What sweater is that? I really like it." It was Hermes… I responded, "cardigan". She looked confused.. lol.

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Exactly. Here we bring things full circle and hence the changing attitudes about brown suede shoes.

Has this really been a thing? I've always loved brown suede shoes!
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Originally Posted by SeaJen View Post
 

There are so many opportunities for resentment in academia anyway that clothing choices nary make the top 20. Sayre's Law, for sure.


Sadly, couldn't agree more. That still doesn't stop the "why are you so dressed up?!" questions/accusations flying when I teach in a jacket and tie, of course, but there are about a thousand more land mines beyond that in my experience in academia.

 

One of the complicated things about the university is that it’s committed in principle to the rule of reason.  That makes it impossible for your boss to tell you that you need to conform to an undeniably arbitrary code of dress.   Thus all of these things are just simmering beneath the surface, unacknowledged.

 

 Like every other human institution the principles on which the modern university is founded are more representative of its aspirations than its accomplishments, of course.   But that doesn’t mean the aspirations aren’t important.  Quite the contrary.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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I don't like Swede shoes.

No love for these?

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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post
 

In general, any display of wealth above your position will negatively affect you. Clothing is only a small part of that. 

 

It's not about position in life or the workplace.  It's how obnoxious it is to discuss your expensive clothing brands, expensive car and whatnot.  My immediate thought upon hearing something like that would be how much my clients would hate dealing with this obnoxious asshole.

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I think he meant these.

 

And I agree, too pointy.

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It's not about position in life or the workplace.  It's how obnoxious it is to discuss your expensive clothing brands, expensive car and whatnot.  My immediate thought upon hearing something like that would be how much my clients would hate dealing with this obnoxious asshole.

I think both of you are correct - one of those things is more obnoxious but neither will be viewed too favorably.
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Love it.

 

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Has this really been a thing? I've always loved brown suede shoes!

 

I'm not saying that everyone is just going with the flow, however I have noticed a marked increase in people who view brown suede as the closest thing to a "one shoe". I think most of it is @Claghorn's fault.

 

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I don't like Swede shoes.

 

Shoes are the least of their sins.

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I’ve been thinking for some time of starting a thread entitled “Dress in Academia.” Given the number of contexts in which the topic has already arisen I suspect that there would be enough interest to justify it. If anyone agrees, just give this post a thumb or drop me a PM. If I get enough interest I’ll try to get around to it within a week (a bit buried in committee work right now).

I don’t want to be responsible for moving this current thread beyond its actual remit, so I’d prefer not to discuss it here. Thumbs or PMs, please.

Cheers,

Ac
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Anything that stops this one thread from blowing up my inbox is OK by me.

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