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I can tell you're extra heated (aside from the posts you're making) because George Zimmer is the Men's Wearhouse guy.

George Zimmerman is the one who killed Trayvon Martin and then had 3 separate gun incidents after that.

Ha. Oh yeah!

Not actually heated, just bemused by juxtaposed humblebrags and coyness, I suppose. It's an internet forum about clothing, how annoyed can one get?

 

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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post
 

smells like... jealousy.

 

Do you mean me? I'm afraid not. 

post #27977 of 37439
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Originally Posted by Academic2 View Post

By the way, at the risk of people thinking I’m lowering the tone of the thread to a plebian level, I noted with interest that a number of well-regarded posters, responding to my question about how much they would pay for a dress belt (remember that?) said that $50 would be their maximum.

They're usually closer to $100 retail, but Trafalgar makes pretty decent belts that can be found around $50 on sale at Bloomie's, Nordy/Rack and the like… just make sure to get the CT, USA stuff, not the shit they began making in China.

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People have been known to turn an analyst's tie around to see where it comes from, or look inside his jacket to see the label. No label = bespoke, which is even worse than wearing some well known brand.

"People?!" what people? I don't disagree with the basic argument of not one-upping the superiors through dress or nicer cars etc., but generally speaking I find this a much more East Coast /European thing and within the law much more of a litigation/big firm kind of deal as opposed to transactional law and the West Coast. I think avoiding the obvious-to-the-masses kind of stuff is generally a good idea in this respect… the Rolex, Hermes/Ferragamo neats, bit loafers (either Gucci or Ferragamo), etc. But I've always been better dressed out here and never really thought it an issue or really that anyone notices or gives a shit.

Here and there someone might ask me about something and if it's really nice I will just say it's something else… my Hermes sweater is just "some Ralph Lauren or something", suit is "whatever brand seems appropriate", yeah basically I lie. Most people won't know the difference one way or another and it's unlikely anyone will look at one of my watches like really close up and see "Zenith" and think that means anything (or go Google it) much less that it might cost more than the Rolex they would recognize.

Maybe that's a big-finance NYC deal checking people's ties and jackets and shit, but if someone did that to me out here I would be seriously shocked… and a bit offended.
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post
 

smells like... jealousy.

LOL

Seriously? Do we get jealous when we see someone wearing something expensive on WAYWRN?

If Semper is this rich, then good for him. We couldn't care any less about his wealth. 

This is about a "beginner" who is talking about shelling out hundreds and thousands of dollars and his rejection to calls for some self control. (Yeah, it's a bit ironic that I am writing this). :spew:

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They're usually closer to $100 retail, but Trafalgar makes pretty decent belts that can be found around $50 on sale at Bloomie's, Nordy/Rack and the like… just make sure to get the CT, USA stuff, not the shit they began making in China.
"People?!" what people? I don't disagree with the basic argument of not one-upping the superiors through dress or nicer cars etc., but generally speaking I find this a much more East Coast /European thing and within the law much more of a litigation/big firm kind of deal as opposed to transactional law and the West Coast. I think avoiding the obvious-to-the-masses kind of stuff is generally a good idea in this respect… the Rolex, Hermes/Ferragamo neats, bit loafers (either Gucci or Ferragamo), etc. But I've always been better dressed out here and never really thought it an issue or really that anyone notices or gives a shit.

Here and there someone might ask me about something and if it's really nice I will just say it's something else… my Hermes sweater is just "some Ralph Lauren or something", suit is "whatever brand seems appropriate", yeah basically I lie. Most people won't know the difference one way or another and it's unlikely anyone will look at one of my watches like really close up and see "Zenith" and think that means anything (or go Google it) much less that it might cost more than the Rolex they would recognize.

Maybe that's a big-finance NYC deal checking people's ties and jackets and shit, but if someone did that to me out here I would be seriously shocked… and a bit offended.

 

High finance and big law, so more NYC than LA. People will google your stuff if they don't know. 

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I have a few buddies who are successful traders - one managed to retire already at like 33 years old (prick haha).

They've never mentioned this label checking thing before so now I want to ask if they've ever seen it done before. They probably have if you make it sound common, and it's just not something that would ever come up in conversation.
post #27981 of 37439
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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post

(Yeah, it's a bit ironic that I am writing this).

And probably loving every second of it, too!
post #27982 of 37439
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Originally Posted by TM79 View Post

I have a few buddies who are successful traders - one managed to retire already at like 33 years old (prick haha).

They've never mentioned this label checking thing before so now I want to ask if they've ever seen it done before. They probably have if you make it sound common, and it's just not something that would ever come up in conversation.

No. I am 33. I am a successful trader. And I wear my suits with the label attached so people would know.

label-on-suit-sleeve.jpg

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^ ah, well there you go, problem solved!

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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post

High finance and big law, so more NYC than LA. People will google your stuff if they don't know. 

Considering the lack of effort they put into dressing themselves I've just always found that unlikely... perhaps you are correct though. I've got some vintage beaters I wear as well… I'll just throw on the old Hamilton. happy.gif
post #27984 of 37439
I've never heard about the label checking either. I have to check with friends if they've been subjected to it. Sounds like an awfully rude thing to do, and is probably not practiced in Sweden.
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You Swedes are far too icy veined and emotionless for such a thing.
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Just in case, I've emailed Black Lapel about some "replacement" tags for my suits from them.

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(Again, very ironic that I am the one saying this but...)

 

This thread has gone from an entertainment thread to a freaking crazy-mad-house-joke thread.

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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post
 

(Again, very ironic that I am the one saying this but...)

 

This thread has gone from an entertainment thread to a freaking crazy-mad-house-joke thread.

Why don't you throw in a picnic attack and we'll see how crazy this thing can really get?

post #27989 of 37439
Hearing all of the talk of "not dressing above your station" makes me happy that I'm too old, too fossilized into my current position at work, and otherwise too bored to care whether I am perceived as "too well dressed" or not.
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It happens if people suspect you're wearing something expensive. They might try to do it subtly, or they might ask to check the label. Or they simply won't check at all and make an assumption and just talk behind your back based on that assumption.

 

Either way, it's not a risk you want to take. People love gossip. Anything that stands out except your work performance will be talked about. And if your performance is really good they might perceive you as a threat which isn't good either. Office politics is very important if you want to get ahead.

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