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post #27736 of 37395
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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post
 

 

Everyone needs to justify their prices. If I ask a tailor why he charges me that much and he gives me a bullshit answer like that I walk away. If he instead explains why he needs to charge so much more than the next, where my money is going, what the whole process is, how many hours it takes to make a shirt.suit etc. I'll be able to make a more informed decision. 

 

You don't buy something just because it was in a commercial, right? Just because LV charges a shitload for their stuff and no one who buys it complains about it, doesn't mean it's actually good/well made product.

And he explained. Did he not? Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean he didn't.

 

Also, are you going to buy kabbaz? f not, WHY ARE YOU STILL ON THIS TANGENT

 

(apparently ninja edit didn't work)

post #27737 of 37395
Capitalism. It is a dog eat dog world.

Like Mercedes' slogan - Nothing but the best.
post #27738 of 37395
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post
 

And he explained. Did he not? Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean he didn't.

 

 

Also, are you going to buy kabbaz? f not, WHY ARE YOU STILL ON THIS TANGENT

 

He didn't really explain where exactly your $1000 is going. I'm not bashing him, I'm genuinely curious where the money is going. We're all clothing enthusiasts here, aren't we? Just having a nice discussion, no need to get so worked up about it. 

post #27739 of 37395
In his and his employees pockets.
post #27740 of 37395
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Originally Posted by Murlsquirl View Post

In his and his employees pockets.

 

Machine made pockets? :D

post #27741 of 37395
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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post
 

 

He didn't really explain where exactly your $1000 is going. I'm not bashing him, I'm genuinely curious where the money is going. We're all clothing enthusiasts here, aren't we? Just having a nice discussion, no need to get so worked up about it. 

He literally wrote about his markup in his post here: http://www.styleforum.net/t/975/kabbaz-shirts

 

Which is way more than most people would be willing to explain about their business. He's also stated that the base cost (which is then marked up) is accounted for by the best interlining (again, I think 8x what the standard is), the best buttons (which Manton detailed in his posts), etc., etc. I think either his collar fusing machine or his sewing machines (or maybe both) aren't even produced anymore but are better than what you can find today.

 

All of this information is available with a cursory search of this forum and AAAC.

post #27742 of 37395
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post
 

And he explained. Did he not? Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean he didn't.

 

Also, are you going to buy kabbaz? f not, WHY ARE YOU STILL ON THIS TANGENT

 

(apparently ninja edit didn't work)

Am I going to buy Kabbaz? Probably. If only to annoy the hell out of @Monkeyface:D

totally worth $6k for that

post #27743 of 37395

Also, to be fair, I do remember some parts of the shirt being handmade, I think it was buttonholes?

post #27744 of 37395
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Originally Posted by semperexcelsius View Post
 

He literally wrote about his markup in his post here: http://www.styleforum.net/t/975/kabbaz-shirts

 

Which is way more than most people would be willing to explain about their business. He's also stated that the base cost (which is then marked up) is accounted for by the best interlining (again, I think 8x what the standard is), the best buttons (which Manton detailed in his posts), etc., etc. I think either his collar fusing machine or his sewing machines (or maybe both) aren't even produced anymore but are better than what you can find today.

 

All of this information is available with a cursory search of this forum and AAAC.

 

Unfortunately, both links are broken. He's saying that his shirts retail for $600 and cost him $300. So today they retail 1100 and cost him 300? Nice 800 profit.

post #27745 of 37395
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post
 

Also, to be fair, I do remember some parts of the shirt being handmade, I think it was buttonholes?

The buttons are sewn on by hand in some crazy fashion (see Manton's posts), but I do believe the actual holes are machine made (I think Alex said he thought hand sewn buttonholes weren't durable enough for him)

post #27746 of 37395
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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post
 

 

Both links are broken. He's saying that his shirts retail for $600 and cost him $300.

You can find the new pages on his website (customshirt1.com). You'll notice that that post is from 2003. The prices have gone up.

post #27747 of 37395
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Originally Posted by semperexcelsius View Post
 

The buttons are sewn on by hand in some crazy fashion (see Manton's posts), but I do believe the actual holes are machine made (I think Alex said he thought hand sewn buttonholes weren't durable enough for him)

Also, he says something along the lines - his shirts should last several hundred wears, and if they don't he will make you another.

 

So there is that advantage you don't get from a typical maker.

post #27748 of 37395
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post
 

Also, he says something along the lines - his shirts should last several hundred wears, and if they don't he will make you another.

 

So there is that advantage you don't get from a typical maker.

Yeah, he still has shirts from like the 80s or something. In some post, he did the math where if his shirts are 2x as expensive but last more than twice as long...

post #27749 of 37395
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post
 

Also, he says something along the lines - his shirts should last several hundred wears, and if they don't he will make you another.

 

So there is that advantage you don't get from a typical maker.

 

My $50 suitsupply shirts have lasted several hundred wears as well. I started with a very small 5 shirt suitsupply wardrobe several years back, and I still wear all but one of them.

post #27750 of 37395
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Originally Posted by semperexcelsius View Post
 

Yeah, he still has shirts from like the 80s or something. In some post, he did the math where if his shirts are 2x as expensive but last more than twice as long..

Yeah, I didn't buy into this psuedo - math, but still, basically- the shirts last fking long, and I have a 'warranty'/I'll fix any problems.

 

 

Anyways, back to other news. Anyone read leave's jab in the Skoak thread last week? Shipping will be 20e or something to those that live in the eurozone. and then said 'please don't ask if greece is still in the eurozone'

 

lawls

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