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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

IIRC Mr. Kabbaz's participation on online fora has been the subject of some controversy

Wow, I just read that last thread. Even if his shirts were only $100 I wouldn't want to buy from him. What an arrogant ass.
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Also, I've found his writings on his website about bespoke shirts to be helpful, although some of the articles are unavailable, and I'm not sure if they'll answer your questions about what warrants the price, necessarily: http://customshirt1.com/CustomShirts01.html

 

Pardon me if I'm breaking some rule about posting links to outside websites. Let me know and I'll remove the link.

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Wow, I just read that last thread. Even if his shirts were only $100 I wouldn't want to buy from him. What an arrogant ass.

I too was unimpressed with him after the first page or two of the thread, but I think he recovered pretty well at the end. And like I said, he's been nothing short of amazing in my personal communications with him—after my first inquiry, the first question he asked was the pronunciation of my last name (I have an unusual last name of which there are multiple pronunciations, but almost no one I've met knows the difference).

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Originally Posted by semperexcelsius View Post


11 what?

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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

After order number ten or eleven, you'll have a well-informed impression that doesn't rely on the tailor's own sales pitch.

11 suits/shirts.
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11 suits/shirts.

Well, not sure I'll order another 5 before deciding whether or not to keep going. And if I'm unhappy with my tailor, I might give him another shot or two, but probably not 11.

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No tailor should have to make you pay full price for an item as the only method of judging the quality of their work. And if that's what they try to mandate then there should be a refund policy to go with it.

When I shopped around for bespoke jacket makers, all the tailors were in the middle of other projects and had no issues showing me those projects and telling me all about their process etc. etc.

Like I said - my point of contention isn't the money. If you've positioned yourself in life such that $6k is a drop in the bucket that is fantastic.

But I've got a huge bone to pick about the methodology and thought process here. I said my part, though. I won't say it again.
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Originally Posted by semperexcelsius View Post

I too was unimpressed with him after the first page or two of the thread, but I think he recovered pretty well at the end. And like I said, he's been nothing short of amazing in my personal communications with him—after my first inquiry, the first question he asked was the pronunciation of my last name (I have an unusual last name of which there are multiple pronunciations, but almost no one I've met knows the difference).

I'm sorry, but seriously?
No tailor has ever pronounced my last name correctly. Heck, not even my own wife knows how to pronounce it. But she does things that are much more important to me.
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Well, not sure I'll order another 5 before deciding whether or not to keep going. And if I'm unhappy with my tailor, I might give him another shot or two, but probably not 11.

its a joke based on something mafoofan said

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No tailor should have to make you pay full price for an item as the only method of judging the quality of their work. And if that's what they try to mandate then there should be a refund policy to go with it.

When I shopped around for bespoke jacket makers, all the tailors were in the middle of other projects and had no issues showing me those projects and telling me all about their process etc. etc.

Like I said - my point of contention isn't the money. If you've positioned yourself in life such that $6k is a drop in the bucket that is fantastic.

But I've got a huge bone to pick about the methodology and thought process here. I said my part, though. I won't say it again.

Thanks for the feedback. Although it seems like I'm steadfastly defending Alex, I'm really interested in hearing the opinions of others (and I still really want to know where others would recommend going instead—Paris, Geneva, somewhere else?)

 

Just to clarify, if you're talking about talking with tailors about the process and seeing works in progress, etc., I don't think Alex will have any trouble doing that. Is there something else I should be looking for, in your opinion, before I drop the money?

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Originally Posted by EliodA View Post


I'm sorry, but seriously?
No tailor has ever pronounced my last name correctly. Heck, not even my own wife knows how to pronounce it. But she does things that are much more important to me.

Obviously that's not a comment on his tailoring ability. Just if we're talking about service, etc. More to the point of how he treats his (potential) customers Re: his participation in that thread

 

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its a joke based on something mafoofan said

Ah, got it. Thanks.

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Guys... money is different to different people, not sure why its such a big deal. if he has the money, and wants the best, let him get the best. Kabbaz, is by all account from SF and AAAC, one of, if not the best in the world.

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Guys... money is different to different people, not sure why its such a big deal. if he has the money, and wants the best, let him get the best. Kabbaz, is by all account from SF and AAAC, one of, if not the best in the world.

Thanks! I'm completely down for discussion, though, since it will help me justify to myself whatever decisions I make. And it seems some people are unconvinced he's the best, so I'm interested in hearing who else they'd recommend.

 

Again, I'm completely prepared to think seriously about someone else if you guys have suggestions.

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@semperexcelsius if you're dead set on using Kabbaz posting in this thread to justify it will get you no where. There are quality makers at every price point but in the end it's all about what you want to wear. If you want to wear Kabbaz's shirts you will pay his price.








You may want to check out CEGO.
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Originally Posted by lordsuperb View Post

@semperexcelsius if you're dead set on using Kabbaz posting in this thread to justify it will get you no where. There are quality makers at every price point but in the end it's all about what you want to wear. If you want to wear Kabbaz's shirts you will pay his price.








You may want to check out CEGO.

Thanks for the advice. I wouldn't say I'm dead set on using Kabbaz, so I appreciate the CEGO recommendation. I'll do some more research, but do I remember that they had some problems delivering a little while ago? And I think I remember a thread about how them being unprofessional in some way. Will do more research though.

 

Anyone with experience at Paris or Geneva in relation to CEGO?

 

EDIT: upon further research, I realized that the claim of unprofessional behavior was bogus.

EDIT 2: the first claim may have been bogus, but there are some other claims that look more legit

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Ok, I'm trying to organize this and figured some of you might still need suede:

 

http://www.styleforum.net/t/503872/gmto-carmina-polo-suede-adelaide-or-semi-brogue-rain-last

 

It would be a polo suede semi-brogue on the rain last. Will be very, very nice.

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