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post #27211 of 37396
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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post


 I have to disagree that grenedines cannot be staples.

 

I'm not saying they can't be staples, I'm just saying I'd prefer some good ol' solid silk ties, hopefully some with a bit of heft to them (they are harder to find in Toronto than I'd have expected).  

 

*Never mind that grenadine ties are apparently made from silk

post #27212 of 37396
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Originally Posted by Bill Dlwgosh View Post

I'm not saying they can't be staples, I'm just saying I'd prefer some good ol' solid silk ties, hopefully some with a bit of heft to them (they are harder to find in Toronto than I'd have expected).  

*Never mind that grenadine ties are apparently made from silk

In my experience, good solid silks are some of the hardest to find. It's very easy for them to look gaudy and cheap.
post #27213 of 37396
Thread Starter 

When I'm not happy with a product, but the error is within reason, this is what I do: I just don't recommend it when people ask for recommendations.

 

Not saying this path works for everyone. But it's the one I prefer to take.

 

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grenadine is more of a staple than twill because it's more versatile. The texture allows it to be dressed down a bit better, I think.

post #27214 of 37396
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post            grenadine is more of a staple than twill 

 

Sorry, hopefully I can ask what does 'twill' refer to here exactly? 

 

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Originally Posted by EliodA View Post


In my experience, good solid silks are some of the hardest to find. It's very easy for them to look gaudy and cheap.
 
Toronto has a Loding who's solid ties are a silk/cotton blend. I'll check them out the next time I'm downtown.
post #27215 of 37396
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Originally Posted by Bill Dlwgosh View Post
 

 

Sorry, hopefully I can ask what does 'twill' refer to here exactly? 

 


The weave of the silk – anything with diagonal element is a twill, and I think Claghorn is referring to the repps you mentioned.

 

I'm pretty sure grenadines get mentioned as a staple tie more often than anything else, so the only reason to avoid them is not liking them – no issue of readiness, IMHO.

 

I only own one, but I basically just thrift ties I like for peanuts, and so I end up having two or three ties that cover the same ground as a given "staple."

post #27216 of 37396
Grenadines are great, but only in StyFo World are they a staple.

The Hober solid reppe ties that I've seen are really nice. Not shiny, tightly woven, with a dryish hand. In terms of staples, I would absolutely rank them above a grenadine. I think the mix of colors you've chosen should stand you in good stead. I might wait for the chocolate to come back in stock in the reppe, though.
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@Bill Dlwgosh I agree with SB that the Hober reppe's are very nice, but I would only consider the navy a staple. The only other i'd consider in reppe is the burgundy, but even then my preference would be for grenadine.

IMO solid forest green, brown look much better with some texture. If you go with the grenadine fina or piccolo, the weave is very subtle but adds enough surface interest to the earth tone colors that I think make them look best.

In summary, if you are not totally comfortable with grenadine yet, I'd suggest you start with the navy reppe and then a brown/green/burgundy fina weave grenadine. I think you'll be surprised at how "normal" grenadines look

Also skip Loding, and stay with Hober. Just tell David when you order the ties that you like a substantial feeling tie and he can adjust the interlining to your preference. Another reason not to order 5 at a time is that you can take the process to get the ties to your satisfaction. They are bespoke after all.
post #27218 of 37396
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Originally Posted by LEVOOSH View Post

@Bill Dlwgosh I agree with SB that the Hober reppe's are very nice, but I would only consider the navy a staple. The only other i'd consider in reppe is the burgundy, but even then my preference would be for grenadine.

IMO solid forest green, brown look much better with some texture. If you go with the grenadine fina or piccolo, the weave is very subtle but adds enough surface interest to the earth tone colors that I think make them look best.

In summary, if you are not totally comfortable with grenadine yet, I'd suggest you start with the navy reppe and then a brown/green/burgundy fina weave grenadine. I think you'll be surprised at how "normal" grenadines look

Also skip Loding, and stay with Hober. Just tell David when you order the ties that you like a substantial feeling tie and he can adjust the interlining to your preference. Another reason not to order 5 at a time is that you can take the process to get the ties to your satisfaction. They are bespoke after all.

I just wanted to pop in and reiterate how much of a gentleman David is. Always super helpful about answering even your strangest/dumbest questions.

 

I agree with not ordering 5 at a time, but I will suggest ordering at least 2 at a time because there's no extra shipping for DHL to ship a second tie—and you definitely need DHL (like 3 week shipping for $18 or DHL 3-day for $21). Doesn't matter too much, but just a thought.

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For the benefit of those who in the future might stumble upon this discussion …

 

While I think that the notion of a set of ‘staple’ ties is a useful starting point for discussion, before making purchasing individual purchasing decisions I think the wardrobe in question needs to be considered.  If charged with recommending a collection of ten ties for someone, it would matter whether that person wore, for example, exclusively solid suits or exclusively patterned jackets, would it not?

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

post #27220 of 37396
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Originally Posted by Academic2 View Post
 

For the benefit of those who in the future might stumble upon this discussion …

 

While I think that the notion of a set of ‘staple’ ties is a useful starting point for discussion, before making purchasing individual purchasing decisions I think the wardrobe in question needs to be considered.  If charged with recommending a collection of ten ties for someone, it would matter whether that person wore, for example, exclusively solid suits or exclusively patterned jackets, would it not?

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

 

Solutions: buy lots of everything in all genres.

post #27221 of 37396
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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post
 

 

Solutions: buy lots of everything in all genres.

I'm not sure if I want to be one of those guys with 200 ties... although with Hober I may get there soon enough

post #27222 of 37396
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Originally Posted by semperexcelsius View Post
 

I'm not sure if I want to be one of those guys with 200 ties...

 

:embar:

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I was once like you.

 

And now, now look at me... oh the shame

 

 

After 100 ties, I had a crisis and underwent a sex change operation.

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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post
 

 

:embar:

 

 

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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post
 

I was once like you.

 

And now, now look at me... oh the shame

 

 

After 100 ties, I had a crisis and underwent a sex change operation.

Don't get me wrong, I want to be able to get through a month or two without having to wear the same tie. But even if you have enough ties to last a year, do you really wear all of them?

post #27225 of 37396
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Originally Posted by semperexcelsius View Post
 

 

 

Don't get me wrong, I want to be able to get through a month or two without having to wear the same tie. But even if you have enough ties to last a year, do you really wear all of them?

 

At the same time? No.

It's like having books. Different moods, different occasions, different seasonal utility.

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