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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

Noodles - I know that measuring shoulders flat isn't easy as it's hard to know exactly where to measure, but your tape looks a full centimeter lower on the blue suits than on the grey suit. I'm not arguing that the shoulders aren't different measurements but those photos unfortunately don't really show that - despite all the good work you put into them.

 

You're being too generous. There are bad photos, followed by bad measurements, followed by... I'll just stop there.

 

This is really some of the funniest performance art I've seen.

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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post

I can't just go by what the tag says?!

 

Honest answer: no.

Serious follow up: are you that confused by how clothes are made that you think a tag is the most meaningful indication of size?

 

When you get a new item, you can put it on, look at it, feel it, and know whether it is a the right size for you. You can evaluate whether you like. If you have any questions about whether it fits or whether you like it, resolve those questions before altering the item.

 

I'm a pain in the ass customer. I suspect I could even get Greg to come back and confirm that. But this is some next level weirdness.

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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post

Fit pix of the fresco showed narrow shoulders time and time again.

 

And, yes, I agree. Narrower from the first picture to the last.

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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post

Fit pix of the fresco showed narrow shoulders time and time again. In order to address concerns over distortions that may be caused by bad camera angles, I measured the damn jackets. Now that I have the damn measurements, you're questioning my methodology?! So now I should take the damn jacket to a professional tailor and have him or her measure it and sign off?!

What do want?! I want a jacket that had measurements that it was supposed to have for $1,700~. For that money, I need to measure everything to make sure that I received the right item?! I can't just go by what the tag says?!

On the bright side William Field is waiting for you with open arms. He will make you a suit and get the shoulders right for a nominal fee....
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One should be able to determine if one likes the feel and fit of a jacket in the chest and shoulders pretty easily. If you look good in a normal photo not taken from a bad angle, that's a good thing. You are buying suits to look good in, Noodles. Measurements are a nice way to figure out if something you are buying online will fit / is worth shipping, but trying it on and deciding you like it is key.
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Noodles, I can understand if you're upset.

The good news - the shoulder/chest area does fit! Those are the most important parts. There aren't divots/creases/Lumps etc. And the waist/hips can be altered.

You can still improve the suit. Maybe it might not be as good as the blue Formosa, but handmade items are always slightly different, and you can still salvage this suit and make it look amazing.
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post #27099 of 37396
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

Noodles, I can understand if you're upset.

The good news - the shoulder/chest area does fit! Those are the most important parts. There aren't divots/creases/Lumps etc. And the waist/hips can be altered.

You can still improve the suit. Maybe it might not be as good as the blue Formosa, but handmade items are always slightly different, and you can still salvage this suit and make it look amazing.


All of this!

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Thread Starter 

It looks like you measured at the same place on each (where the shoulder seem hits the sleeve head). I think I see what gdl is referring to, but it seems like it's just the picture.

 

You've already altered the jacket, but I don't get the impression you're looking to return it or anything.

 

As several have said, it's handmade and so there is going to always be some variance. And I suspect fresco can be trickier to work with than a lot of other fabrics. A couple of people, myself included, have mentioned having issues with fresco where we've had none with others from the same tailor/pattern/brand. And I think it is @Mr. Six's fresco formosa that's giving him a bit of trouble.

 

Anyway, sucks that it happened to an area of the jacket where small differences manifest visibly, but you've still got yourself a great suit.

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So if handmade has a larger variance than machine made, and handmade is more likely to be sloppy than machine made, why do we prefer handmade again?
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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post

So if handmade has a larger variance than machine made, and handmade is more likely to be sloppy than machine made, why do we prefer handmade again?

 

I prefer handmade when the hands making it are also the hands measuring, cutting, and fitting.

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So if handmade has a larger variance than machine made, and handmade is more likely to be sloppy than machine made, why do we prefer handmade again?

 

Well, a little bit of variance is no problem. 3cm on shoulders, though...

Anyway (generalising, of course): handmade wears more comfortable, looks better (detailing), appreciation of artisanship etc. etc.

Most important: bragging rights with your SF buddies.

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So if handmade has a larger variance than machine made, and handmade is more likely to be sloppy than machine made, why do we prefer handmade again?


Lots of assumptions in that argument.

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Lots of assumptions in that argument.

Not really. I'm basing this purely on facts about Formosa handmade stuff.
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