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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

So they're winter wear?
For me, absolutely. I don't wear them in summer.
But I also don't get wearing undershirts in summer either. To me they just stop air circulation and dense cotton soaks up moisture and stays wet. Much prefer to wear no undershirt and a looser fitting open weave linen/cotton that breathes and lets the breeze through.
post #26852 of 37392
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Originally Posted by Henry Carter View Post

For me, absolutely. I don't wear them in summer.
But I also don't get wearing undershirts in summer either. To me they just stop air circulation and dense cotton soaks up moisture and stays wet. Much prefer to wear no undershirt and a looser fitting open weave linen/cotton that breathes and lets the breeze through.

Unless it gets really hot, as it is often around here. No matter what you try, you're gonna sweat anyway. And then it's much better to wear an undershirt as it will help your shirt stay in shape a bit better. That loose cotton or linen shirt will look like a rumpled rag without it.
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Nothing is worse than a sweaty dress shirt. The singlet/tanktop/humanbeater is not about collecting sweat pooling out of your armpits, it's about perspiration from the body. I don't know the science behind this, but it actually catches and disperses perspiration a bit, keeping you from having a sticky and wet dress shirt, and the undershirt itself does not get sticky and wet, either. I guess it's kind of a layered effect where sweat is effectively diffused across the two layers, causing neither to feel clingy.

 

It could wear warm if the undershirt you use is too thick. I run hot in winter, so this is not even going into my consideration.

 

Also, it feels vaguely lewd to be wearing a bare shirt. Undershirt plus underpants is like the suit before the suit.

I don't think I need to painstakingly elaborate this, but the American businesswear crewneck t-shirt undershirt is ridiculous for reasons having nothing to do with perspiration -- the shirt coming up to your neck and the sleeves showing through the dress shirt look gauche, to say the least. I think that in the right company, the thin sliver of a tanktop strap showing through a dress shirt is a sign of civility -- i.e., thank god he didn't wear a crewneck t-shirt.

 

This is kind of like over the calf socks versus that other, unmentionable kind. Or like wearing black underpants. Just one of those things.

post #26854 of 37392
Suit looks good, Noodles. The bathroom, however, does not. Time to put some of that hard-earned into some remodelling methinks.
post #26855 of 37392
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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post

To clear the air, let it be said that if a user's underwear is any non-white color, please state this upfront so I can put you/them on ignore.
I wear grey Uniqlo undershirts. I find that they are much less visible under my dress shirts than white undershirts. YMMV of course depending on your skin tone.
post #26856 of 37392
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Originally Posted by breakaway01 View Post

I wear grey Uniqlo undershirts. I find that they are much less visible under my dress shirts than white undershirts. YMMV of course depending on your skin tone.

This. Grey uniqlo undershirts for me.
post #26857 of 37392
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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post

So which one of these are you?




T-shirt with briefs, OTC socks
Singlet with boxers, no socks
T-shirt with boxers, OTC socks plus garters

Or maybe you opt for the thong?

I'm known to go commando on occasion, but it's usually no undershirt and compression shorts. Though I might adopt the look of the the bearded white guy with the fro.
post #26858 of 37392
Wife's friend is visiting from the UK today and will need to give her a tour of DC. Then wife asked me to give them some time alone. I can think of 1 place to go. Suit Supply.

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Originally Posted by SeaJen View Post

Suit looks good, Noodles. The bathroom, however, does not. Time to put some of that hard-earned into some remodelling methinks.
You read my mind. The shower booth(?) needs to be overhauled. Besides that a nice new toilet. Everything else is fine. Nice jetqusie and granite(?) floor tiles. But we plan on moving within 2 years so we won't invest too much. We watch HGTV channel...besides all the Korean shows.
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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post

Nothing is worse than a sweaty dress shirt. The singlet/tanktop/humanbeater is not about collecting sweat pooling out of your armpits, it's about perspiration from the body. I don't know the science behind this, but it actually catches and disperses perspiration a bit, keeping you from having a sticky and wet dress shirt, and the undershirt itself does not get sticky and wet, either. I guess it's kind of a layered effect where sweat is effectively diffused across the two layers, causing neither to feel clingy.

It could wear warm if the undershirt you use is too thick. I run hot in winter, so this is not even going into my consideration.

Also, it feels vaguely lewd to be wearing a bare shirt. Undershirt plus underpants is like the suit before the suit.
I don't think I need to painstakingly elaborate this, but the American businesswear crewneck t-shirt undershirt is ridiculous for reasons having nothing to do with perspiration -- the shirt coming up to your neck and the sleeves showing through the dress shirt look gauche, to say the least. I think that in the right company, the thin sliver of a tanktop strap showing through a dress shirt is a sign of civility -- i.e., thank god he didn't wear a crewneck t-shirt.

This is kind of like over the calf socks versus that other, unmentionable kind. Or like wearing black underpants. Just one of those things.
I wear Hanes V neck undershirt. I do not sweat much but I got some pointy nipples.
Edited by The Noodles - 7/3/15 at 6:06am
post #26859 of 37392
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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post

Nothing is worse than a sweaty dress shirt. The singlet/tanktop/humanbeater is not about collecting sweat pooling out of your armpits, it's about perspiration from the body. I don't know the science behind this, but it actually catches and disperses perspiration a bit, keeping you from having a sticky and wet dress shirt, and the undershirt itself does not get sticky and wet, either. I guess it's kind of a layered effect where sweat is effectively diffused across the two layers, causing neither to feel clingy.

It could wear warm if the undershirt you use is too thick. I run hot in winter, so this is not even going into my consideration.

Also, it feels vaguely lewd to be wearing a bare shirt. Undershirt plus underpants is like the suit before the suit.
I don't think I need to painstakingly elaborate this, but the American businesswear crewneck t-shirt undershirt is ridiculous for reasons having nothing to do with perspiration -- the shirt coming up to your neck and the sleeves showing through the dress shirt look gauche, to say the least. I think that in the right company, the thin sliver of a tanktop strap showing through a dress shirt is a sign of civility -- i.e., thank god he didn't wear a crewneck t-shirt.

This is kind of like over the calf socks versus that other, unmentionable kind. Or like wearing black underpants. Just one of those things.

Questions:

If the undershirt effectively diffuses the sweat on the body, why would the same phenomenon not apply to the armpit?

Are all of your shirts so gauzy that you can see your undershirt?

Who hurt you?

(Declaration of interest: I have no dog in this fight. I don't wear undershirts with dress shirts.)
post #26860 of 37392
@The Noodles
Can't tell what the shower is, but if it's a plastic shower pan, I would redo it in tile and add a nicer door...frameless.
Replace counter top and sink, fixtures, and light fixture. For resale you want to remove the builder-grade stuff. Replacing the floor tile is easy, provided you are comfortable removing the cabinet and putting it back in.
Depending on your diy skills a lot of this is doable yourself.
post #26861 of 37392
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Originally Posted by SeaJen View Post

@The Noodles
Can't tell what the shower is, but if it's a plastic shower pan, I would redo it in tile and add a nicer door...frameless.
Replace counter top and sink, fixtures, and light fixture. For resale you want to remove the builder-grade stuff. Replacing the floor tile is easy, provided you are comfortable removing the cabinet and putting it back in.
Depending on your diy skills a lot of this is doable yourself.
Yes, it is a plastic junk (shower booth). I want to remove it and maybe it could be a good man's project. The floor tiles are probably the only thing I would keep. I agree with you on all the rest. Surprisingly, improvements like this are cheaper than what I had thought. 2-3k USD?
post #26862 of 37392
Depends on the materials. Ceramic or porcelain is way cheaper than stone, and replacing the shower hardware can ne pricey too, but for a small bathroom and keeping the cabinetry, I would say about 3.5.

I just remodelled our master, replaced the tub with a 5x3 shower, marble floors and new lighting and it finished at 4600. Did it all myself, though, so mo (direct) labor costs. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Before (previous owner really liked blue)


Mid-demo



After

post #26863 of 37392
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Originally Posted by SeaJen View Post

Depends on the materials. Ceramic or porcelain is way cheaper than stone, and replacing the shower hardware can ne pricey too, but for a small bathroom and keeping the cabinetry, I would say about 3.5.

I just remodelled our master, replaced the tub with a 5x3 shower, marble floors and new lighting and it finished at 4600. Did it all myself, though, so mo (direct) labor costs. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Before (previous owner really liked blue)


Mid-demo



After


Wow, SeaJean! That is a hell of a remodel. The bathroom looks great and kudos to you for doing it yourself!
post #26864 of 37392
Oh whoa! Very nice seajen!!!
I am thinking...
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post #26865 of 37392

Doesn't an undershirt keep you warmer? Which would be defeating the purpose

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