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No, not the historical information on where certain colors were traditionally worn.  I was referring to your assertion that black, charcoal and dark colors should be worn in an urban environment because they simply look better in that environment than brown and other lighter colors.  I'm not sure how you can objectively state that any specific color looks better in an urban environment, especially considering the vast diversity of our many urban environments.

If you're in Gotham City, or a soot covered 1750 London, I could see it. However, I don't live in a bleak post-apocalyptic world so navy and brown is just fine in every city I've ever been to.
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If the Chukka in rain 9UK fit then I suspect you'll be ok with 9UK rain in a oxford and prefer it to the 8.5UK. If anything, the chukka, I suspect, will feel looser, but this depends on number of eyelets/placement and how tightly you tie the shoes.

I agree. I've never tried a tighter than a shoe chukka - it's always the other direction.
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Do they have a five eyelet? That would give you a closer approximation to shoes. I'm guessing these will feel looser than a rain oxford, given placement of the lacing.

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I will wear only black oxfords with this. It just looks better. 

 

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I have a suit in what I believe is the same fabric.  It does look good with black shoes but with browns as well

 

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You need to add a pair of oxblood/burgundy shoes to your closet.

 

Listen to Murl here.  I posted a WAYWRN a couple of weeks ago (probably the second WAYWRN I've ever posted) with that fabric and the Oxblood Vass above

 

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^ you can wear many shades of brown with that suit as well. No need for black only.

 

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Yes, I'd do that. BUT would this work with the fresco? I ask only because the last fits and I am familiar with the maker. 

@Cleav 

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I also own C&J in that color. They work fine but I think the Oxblood not only works better but is more versatile with other fits.  I actually pretty much only wear my chestnut shoes with odd jackets any more.

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If you're in Gotham City, or a soot covered 1750 London, I could see it. However, I don't live in a bleak post-apocalyptic world so navy and brown is just fine in every city I've ever been to.

Navy is okay. But brown suit? ehhh no.

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Do they have a five eyelet? That would give you a closer approximation to shoes. I'm guessing these will feel looser than a rain oxford, given placement of the lacing.

This is all they had in a Rain 9UK.

The 8.5UK was almost uncomfortably snug, but the SA insisted this was my size and it would break in. He wasn't being pushy - nice guy actually.
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If you're in Gotham City, or a soot covered 1750 London, I could see it. However, I don't live in a bleak post-apocalyptic world so navy and brown is just fine in every city I've ever been to.

 

Depends on the city. Navy is a city colour, so that's fine.

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This is all they had in a Rain 9UK.

The 8.5UK was almost uncomfortably snug, but the SA insisted this was my size and it would break in. He wasn't being pushy - nice guy actually.


I think you should wait until you can try on all sizes.

 

If he's insisting "this is your size" based just on your Brannock measurement, then I'd be wary. If he has other insights (he asked or looked at your instep, etc.), and he's older (i.e. seasoned in fitting shoes), then maybe. But it would be an expensive mistake.

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Monkeyface is of course correct so far as the history of the ‘no brown in town’ principle.  It was, and perhaps to some extent still is, a very British thing, with roots in the fact that the British aristocracy often maintained separate wardrobes for their country homes and their London homes.

 

These days, in the northeastern US at least, the appropriateness of brown is mostly a seasonal question.  You’ll see it, especially in tweed, in cities (including Manhattan), but it’s a fall/winter thing.  Been that way for a long time.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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I think you should wait until you can try on all sizes.

If he's insisting "this is your size" based just on your Brannock measurement, then I'd be wary. If he has other insights (he asked or looked at your instep, etc.), and he's older (i.e. seasoned in fitting shoes), then maybe. But it would be an expensive mistake.

Trying on all would be ideal, but I don't have anything local that carries my supposed size.

He did look at my instep and was fairly knowledgeable about shoes and fits and other sartorial facets.
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Listen to Murl always.

FTFY
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Don't listen to Murl on his hatred for loafers!

Murl is the biggest hater on SF
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Gents who own C&J 348 (Hallam, Tetbury, Highbury etc.)

 

In an effort to figure out sizing on my shoe, I've taken it on to record some sizes for the C&J thread, given that Barneys is a big source of the shoes (especially on sale) and yet their sizing seems to be all over the place. I'm after a stable measurement for sizes 9 to 10US (or 8 to 9 UK) for the common 348 last.

 

If you have data, and wouldn't mind reporting it in that thread, I'd be grateful. What I'm doing is taking a tailor's tape and measuring toe to heel, with tape held to each point (so not a straight line on the tape). Would be useful to know where you sourced your shoe (US vs UK, e.g., Barneys vs. not Barneys).

 

While this started as an attempt to figure out the size of my shoe (which I'm still debating on keeping), I figured it might be useful to the C&J community as well so I'm going to collate data.

 

Cheers.

 

http://www.styleforum.net/t/227575/quintessential-crockett-jones-thread/9690#post_7972113

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Originally Posted by Murlsquirl View Post
 

 

You need to add a pair of oxblood/burgundy shoes to your closet.

 

Loafers too. 

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Loafers too. 

I was going to get a pair, but then I came to my senses (with the help of a friend) and decided to get EG Ashbys...basically loafers with a strap.
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