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@LA Guy

What is your next destination for work related travel?
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@LA Guy

What is your next destination for work related travel?

I don't know yet, but in all likelihood San Francisco, where out tech partners are based, and maybe NYC in the fall, if we decide to do another Styleforum trunkshow, though that remains an open decision.  Truthfully, I don't love work travel, and particularly not in the summer.  I am a cold weather creature, born and bred in Canadia, on the snowy shores of Lake Ontario.  

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On black derbies. My feeling is that in many cases, very dark brown would work at least as well but also in other fits where black would not. So I'd say very dark brown might be better.

For odd trousers, black shoes feel a bit too military (cf khakis with black shoes), except maybe with charcoal trousers. Caustic, I'd like brown better but maybe next time for discussion you could try pics with each pair on?

I've been thinking about this, and I think it depends a lot on where you live. Dressing for your environment is often ignored around here.

If you live in a big city, most colours around you will be shades of grey and black. Wearing city colours, such as grey trousers, black shoes, navy blazers, white shirts and black or grey ties does tend to look much better than the combination with brown shoes and brown ties.

If I'm in the country, or a smaller city with much more green space, black does tend to look out of place, but when you're in the urban jungle there's no substitute for black. There's a reason why New Yorkers prefer dressing in black, it simply looks better in that environment.
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@New Shoes1

I think this is too busy. I want my shoes to stay sublime

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This prob is more in line with what I am currently looking for.

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What about something like this? Simple, sublime, and a great complement to brown and black Hallams:

 

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I've been thinking about this, and I think it depends a lot on where you live. Dressing for your environment is often ignored around here.

If you live in a big city, most colours around you will be shades of grey and black. Wearing city colours, such as grey trousers, black shoes, navy blazers, white shirts and black or grey ties does tend to look much better than the combination with brown shoes and brown ties.

If I'm in the country, or a smaller city with much more green space, black does tend to look out of place, but when you're in the urban jungle there's no substitute for black. There's a reason why New Yorkers prefer dressing in black, it simply looks better in that environment.

 

I agree with the point about dressing for one's environment, but I think that the assertion about grey and black may be more Square Mile or Canary Wharf than big city writ large (or perhaps financial services more broadly). When i worked in Midtown I probably saw more brown shoes than black ones; probably less prevalent when I worked in Mayfair but common nonetheless. Even in my own CBD environment, where brown shoes is pushing it but something one can get away with nonetheless, you see plenty of burgundy and non-navy ties.

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I agree with the point about dressing for one's environment, but I think that the assertion about grey and black may be more Square Mile or Canary Wharf than big city writ large (or perhaps financial services more broadly). When i worked in Midtown I probably saw more brown shoes than black ones; probably less prevalent when I worked in Mayfair but common nonetheless. Even in my own CBD environment, where brown shoes is pushing it but something one can get away with nonetheless, you see plenty of burgundy and non-navy ties.

I'm not talking about what you can get away with, or what others wear, I'm simply talking about what colours go best with palette of your average big city. Most big cities exist out of shades of grey, although some cities are of course more colourful than others.

Wearing darker colours such as grey, charcoal and black tends to look much better in the city than in the country. Browns, greens and tans on the other hand look much better in the country than in the city. For example, a lot of tweeds and tartans were made to mimic the colours found in the different English and Scottish rural landscapes. There is a reason why there used to be two separate dresscodes depending on whether you were in the country or the city.
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MF

 

I agree with you about context.

 

As I don’t work in a CBD environment, indeed where I think most of my colleagues are underdressed, at least when they are lecturing, I myself dislike wearing black shoes. With odd jackets, the only combo I feel isn’t less than “optimal” with black shoes (and derbies as PTB or with broguing) is the museum guard combo (mid to dark mid gray, navy blazer), but I still prefer darker brown derbies to distance myself from that association. 

 

In more formal, admin contexts, where I don’t think a suit is necessary but some additional formality feels appropriate (dean meetings, working meetings with provost/president), then I might go with black with the museum guard combo with a white linen square or no square at all. 

 

Black chelseas with jeans and T-shirt is a look I wear and like. 

 

For versatility, however, I was suggesting dark brown shoes rather than black for someone who largely wears odd jackets and was wondering about whether to commit to black PTBs. I say dark brown first.

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I use black derbies occasionally with dark to mid gray trousers, navy jacket, blue shirt, and a cool colored tie without any brown. Not always; I wear brown a lot with the same thing, but I'll just as happily wear black. Most recently:



But yes, buy brown first.
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I will wear only black oxfords with this. It just looks better. 

 

 

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I will wear only black oxfords with this. It just looks better. 

 

 

You need to add a pair of oxblood/burgundy shoes to your closet.

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^ you can wear many shades of brown with that suit as well. No need for black only.
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^ is that a new formosa?
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Beauty of a grey suit. Black and brown look equally good depending on what you put together
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^ is that a new formosa?


UH, yesssss....where has you been.

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Noodles, what do you think of these (Vass for Shibumi)?  Adds some reddish hue to your shoe game if you're not into full-on burgundy.  

 

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