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post #26431 of 37396
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Picture of Greg wearing that tux:

http://nomanwalksalone.tumblr.com/post/71316287698/the-suit-for-celebrating-by-david-isle-new

 

Such a great tux.

post #26432 of 37396
Thinking about commissioning some more linen pants, but in a light/washed out red, and a light blue.











Does anyone think these are versatile? Any preferences?

(These are from the H&S South Pacific and Key West books if anyone was interested)
post #26433 of 37396

Mildly informed commentary from someone who hasn't worn a suit this year:

 

Black shoes are overrated. If you don't have the black shoe to wear with a tux, you are clearly not a regular black shoe wearer.

 

Therefore, dropping 1k on black calf skin shoe is a curious line of thinking.

 

Carmina and Edward Green will work in patent leather. I am not sure how Carmina's are constructed, but EG are cemented, and thus cheaper than regular EG pricing.

 

If you have no other need for black shoes, going patent would seem to be the optimal black tie solution.

 

https://leffot.com/tag/patent/

 

The problem is a cursory search hasn't found a retailer who stocks EG patent. I'd ping EG and Carmina directly to see who would stock this. If you had to MTO EG patent, you are probably back over $1k, off the shelf I think they are $700-$800 . Carmina, if goodyear, is probably $600ish to MTO patent

 

I would ask C&J in NYC if they have RTW patent leather in house

post #26434 of 37396
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Originally Posted by GuP View Post


Yea I got that. Was asking @Bill Dlwgosh - he referenced some places that I could not find in NYC

 

The places I mentioned are in The Greater Toronto Area. I thought you are a Torontonian? If you are then check out GTAShoeShine.com. It's where I got my first 2 pairs of Vass and the operator is a styleforum member named jokb. $650 US sounds like a nice price but after currency exchange and conversion plus American taxes and Canadian duty you're probably past $1K Canadian, no?. You can MTO from GTAShoeshine for $895 CAD with no shipping. Loding and Leatherfoot are both in downtown Toronto.

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Originally Posted by circumspice View Post

Mildly informed commentary from someone who hasn't worn a suit this year:

Black shoes are overrated. If you don't have the black shoe to wear with a tux, you are clearly not a regular black shoe wearer.

Therefore, dropping 1k on black calf skin shoe is a curious line of thinking.

Carmina and Edward Green will work in patent leather. I am not sure how Carmina's are constructed, but EG are cemented, and thus cheaper than regular EG pricing.

If you have no other need for black shoes, going patent would seem to be the optimal black tie solution.

https://leffot.com/tag/patent/

The problem is a cursory search hasn't found a retailer who stocks EG patent. I'd ping EG and Carmina directly to see who would stock this. If you had to MTO EG patent, you are probably back over $1k, off the shelf I think they are $700-$800 . Carmina, if goodyear, is probably $600ish to MTO patent

I would ask C&J in NYC if they have RTW patent leather in house

Not a regular black shoe wearer, but I do have two or three black shoes. One is AE Park Ave and the other a heavy brogued Ferragamo.

IMO, getting a patent leather to ONLY wear with the tux isn't economical or versatile. OTOH, a black calf skin captoe oxford can be paired with many outfits.
post #26436 of 37396
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Originally Posted by Bill Dlwgosh View Post

The places I mentioned are in The Greater Toronto Area. I thought you are a Torontonian? If you are then check out GTAShoeShine.com. It's where I got my first 2 pairs of Vass and the operator is a styleforum member named jokb. $650 US sounds like a nice price but after currency exchange and conversion plus American taxes and Canadian duty you're probably past $1K Canadian, no?. You can MTO from GTAShoeshine for $895 CAD with no shipping. Loding and Leatherfoot are both in downtown Toronto.

Not in Canada. Northeast USA.
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Not in Canada. Northeast USA.

 

My Bad.

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@GuP check if they have your size here for Carmina Rain black calf balms http://gentlemensfootwear.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/pre-order-carmina-shoemaker-captoe-oxford-in-black-calf

 

Comes to $393.75 shipped after coupon and Steve @steveyoo1983 the owner of Gentlemen's Footwear is kinda awesome

post #26439 of 37396
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Originally Posted by MGoCrimson View Post

@GuP
 check if they have your size here for Carmina Rain black calf balms http://gentlemensfootwear.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/pre-order-carmina-shoemaker-captoe-oxford-in-black-calf

Comes to $393.75 shipped after coupon and Steve @steveyoo1983
 the owner of Gentlemen's Footwear is kinda awesome

Thanks for link. 10 or 10.5 or 11 will fit in this shoe. I am going to the Armoury in NYC Monday to try on some Carmina in the rain last.

Is the shoe you posted same as the Carmina Rain 732 Simple Captoe - Calf Black that the Armoury sells for $550? Not sure if the Armoury Carmian is the same or has perhaps better leather or something different about it. It can be found here: http://shop.thearmoury.com/us/artisans/carmina?limit=all&mode=grid
Edited by GuP - 6/28/15 at 7:20am
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Originally Posted by GuP View Post


Thanks for link. I an going to be either 10 or 10.5 or 11 in this shoe. I am going to the Armoury in NYC Monday to try on some Carmina in the rain last.

Is the shoe you posted same as the Carmina Rain 732 Simple Captoe - Calf Black that the Armoury sells for $550? Not sure if the Armoury Carmian is the same or has perhaps better leather or something different about it. It can be found here: http://shop.thearmoury.com/us/artisans/carmina?limit=all&mode=grid

I'm not sure about the model, but Carmina doesn't have different grades of construction/material AFAIK. Though the Inca last slightly more expensive than the others lasts — not too sure of the differences between Inca and others. 

 

The string loafers I got from the Armoury are identical to the string loafers carried at Skoaktiebolaget and Gentlemen's Footwear, just at a hefty premium.

post #26441 of 37396
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Originally Posted by MGoCrimson View Post

I'm not sure about the model, but Carmina doesn't have different grades of construction/material AFAIK. Though the Inca last slightly more expensive than the others lasts — not too sure of the differences between Inca and others. 

The string loafers I got from the Armoury are identical to the string loafers carried at Skoaktiebolaget and Gentlemen's Footwear, just at a hefty premium.

The armoury doesn't really cater to small timers or people who want something cheaper. It's for people who just want to go to one store, buy a whole wardrobe and be done with it, no matter the cost. Hence, they can charge a big premium for eveything, as their customers are probably not very price sensitive. It's usually not very difficult to find some of the stuff they carry 20%-30% cheaper somewhere else.
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I agree with Circumspice. If you already have Park Avenues that you hardly wear, I see no sense in getting more black captoes. I don't like to see people wear calf with black tie, personally. It's like wearing a long tie because you don't want to buy a bow tie for the occasion.
If you don't want to get patent leather, how about velvet slippers?

Worth noting, however, that I own patent leather opera pumps, patent leather captoes, and velvet slippers yet wear black tie only once a year!


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Originally Posted by GuP View Post

Not a regular black shoe wearer, but I do have two or three black shoes. One is AE Park Ave and the other a heavy brogued Ferragamo.

IMO, getting a patent leather to ONLY wear with the tux isn't economical or versatile. OTOH, a black calf skin captoe oxford can be paired with many outfits.
post #26443 of 37396
The inca last is carmina's narrowest option. The rain is normal to wide.
post #26444 of 37396
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

The inca last is carmina's narrowest option. The rain is normal to wide.

 

The inca is one of Carmina's widest lasts. Alcudia and Simpson are the narrowest.

 

For reference: http://www.carminashoemaker.com/about-last

post #26445 of 37396
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Originally Posted by Gerry Nelson View Post

The inca is one of Carmina's widest lasts. Alcudia and Simpson are the narrowest.

For reference: http://www.carminashoemaker.com/about-last
Shit , you're right - too little sleep last night. I was thinking of the narrow loafer last.
http://www.skoaktiebolaget.se/pages/carmina-last-comparison
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