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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post


FYI, AE used to have better sales more frequently in the past, back when their shoes were higher quality and carried a lower MSRP. Continue buying AE seconds on sale if you want, but stop acting like waiting around to scrounge leftovers during a sale is how everyone shops.

AE actually has a few things going for it, which oddly you haven't mentioned - choosing instead to fall into "but they're a great value" party line. They're available everywhere and they offer a million different sizes. Neither can be said of Carmina or C&J.

 

My only point is that you are not being fair or accurate in your disparaging of AE.  That's it.  I'm not sure where you get the rest of this from or why you keep carrying on in suggesting anyone who buys AE's is scrounging around for leftover seconds.  :confused:

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The argument is, if you're going to compare new shoes, compare them to new shoes. You can't compare factory seconds to new shoes and then talk about how much cheaper the seconds are. Obviously they're cheaper, they should be - they're defective!
post #26313 of 37396
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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post

Vox's coherent combinations post>all of Foos posts combined

I think Foo and Vox were different animals. The former was to me more philosophically oriented and one can pick up different things from each.
post #26314 of 37396
Thread Starter 
We aren't comparing the two. We are comparing the choice to purchase one with the choice to purchase another.

Choice one: purchase 220 AE seconds
Choice two: purchases 360 (with shipping) Carminas

The shoes themselves aren't fit for comparison.

3V, where in Tejas were you?
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

Only his initial posts. Then they devolved to polemic

I wouldn't go that far. I grant that the ratio of polemic to insight increased as threads went on, though.
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Was Foo ever involved in a thread that didn't eventually turn into utter shit? The green breast wallet thread was a classic though. One might say it was the AE second of great threads.
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post


3V, where in Tejas were you?

Lewisville
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the reason that many (including me) got started in footwear in general was through the ready availability of AE shoes in nonstandard widths. Even with the exchange rate what it is, I've been dying to buy Carmina, but if I want to get an extra wide model, only 3 lasts are available, and then I have to pay a 50% markup fee. At that point, Carmina's are well into Vass territory (of which I have an MTO in production). I had an MTO Bonafe done through Soak in the (again) only last that maker offers in extra wide, and while the fit was in the ballpark, if I had had a chance to actually try the brand on my foot beforehand(er, foot), I would have realized that this (one) last wasn't exactly right for my foot. again, a $550 lesson learned.

 

So offering Carmina as a reasonable alternative to AE for folks with little experience with dress footwear isn't always a practical place to start.

 

Someone with a 3E or UK H fitting foot can't reasonably acquire a properly fitting shoe from another reputable maker (SF approved or not) for less than 400$

post #26319 of 37396
The high end J&M shoes come in widths and cost around $425. They're nicer looking than AE, but I've never checked them out in person.
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Does anyone in this thread have experience with Meermin and/or Herring, and can compare those to AE and/or Carmina?  I'm firmly in the camp for whom sub-$250 is a meaningful distinction from $400 after shipping et al, but I can be persuaded to shift my loyalties if there's a clear reason to do so.  

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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

The high end J&M shoes come in widths and cost around $425. They're nicer looking than AE, but I've never checked them out in person.


ok, i checked out the JM site. There are 3 higher-end models offered in E and 3E, and while all three look nice (a stitch cap, shorting ball, and tassel loafer), they're only offered in 1 color (black), 1 leather (calf), and I only get to see one photo of them. Would like to see in person, if I ever needed another black shoe...

 

But on the merits, I (like many), have kind of "graduated" beyond AE now, after hanging out with you SF wackos. So for what it's worth, I can definitely agree with the quality and aesthetic differences cited.

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Originally Posted by heldentenor View Post

Does anyone in this thread have experience with Meermin and/or Herring, and can compare those to AE and/or Carmina?  I'm firmly in the camp for whom sub-$250 is a meaningful distinction from $400 after shipping et al, but I can be persuaded to shift my loyalties if there's a clear reason to do so.  

Meermin is good, but inconsistent with QC (but I tried over a year ago, and haven't followed since then). Good value for the price though, especially with strong dollar
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Thread Starter 
@Caustic Man just got some Herring and was pleased with them. I have several Meermin shoes and those are alright. Not the most comfortable but more comfortable than most. Probably won't purchase again.

Carmina hurt my feet, but I'm willing to try a different last. AE's are still the most comfortable shoes I own.
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Originally Posted by heldentenor View Post
 

Does anyone in this thread have experience with Meermin and/or Herring, and can compare those to AE and/or Carmina?  I'm firmly in the camp for whom sub-$250 is a meaningful distinction from $400 after shipping et al, but I can be persuaded to shift my loyalties if there's a clear reason to do so.  

 

I have Meermin shell longwings where the build quality seems very nice, but the finishing is pretty haphazard.  The  medallions are not straight and the shell was not finished consistently.  My recollection from the Meermin thread is that too many shoes come out with similar quality control issues.  Then there is the customer service, which is non-existent.  For me, I decided the chance of getting another dud of a shoe with no customer service was not worth the $100 I would save compared with Carmina.  Keep in mind that if you order directly from Carmina, the cost is $350 for many models.

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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

Was Foo ever involved in a thread that didn't eventually turn into utter shit? The green breast wallet thread was a classic though. One might say it was the AE second of great threads.

Most threads started by Foo turned into entertaining but educational (at least for a good while) trainwrecks. He was heavily involved in the Good Taste Thread and The State of Black Tie, both of which had a significantly higher ratio of good insight and discussion to general trainwreck. I'm sure there were some others, but the green wallet thread was a classic disaster. OneShoe and OneTrouser threads had their moments and were less bad than some other Foo threads.
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