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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post


Anyways, seeing as you all are so sensitive about your own bodies, I will not give advice regarding that anymore. Instead of saying you could fix that dropped shoulder by doing x,y,z, I'll say you'll have to go to a tailor and pay him $150 to correct the shoulder of every single jacket you own, because there is absolutely no other way of changing it!

Haha. I'm not sure this last part was needed. I don't think that's the case. He just said he wasn't considering that option and then we had like 2.5 more pages of talking about it. I can say at least my own post wasn't aimed at anyone specifically.
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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post
 

Well, he posted a pic of the POW, which made me think that he was aiming for that kind of body.

 

Why would you think that?

 

Seriously you are jumping to the wrong conclusions all over the place here. Like others suggested, I came here to talk about clothes. This wasn't the first time you offered the "just work out" advice and I thought it was pretty thoroughly debunked before which is why I was harsh in my response, and rightly so it would seem as you're weirdly unable to just leave it.

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In reality, when a skinny guy works out he may or may not fit better into clothes. If you have normal width shoulders as a skinny 34, you're going to very possibly have narrow sloping shoulders when you put 20 pounds of muscle onto a skeletal frame. Unless you're doing wrestling or something, the thickness of your neck (not the traps) isn't going to dramatically increase either, while your (or mine at least) traps will grow quickly.
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Originally Posted by StanleyVanBuren View Post
 

 

Why would you think that?

 

Seriously you are jumping to the wrong conclusions all over the place here. Like others suggested, I came here to talk about clothes. This wasn't the first time you offered the "just work out" advice and I thought it was pretty thoroughly debunked before which is why I was harsh in my response, and rightly so it would seem as you're weirdly unable to just leave it.

 

The gist of what I said last time is pretty much the same as now. I gave multiple options as well. In order to balance out those full trousers you can either get jackets with more drape/bigger chest and shoulders (which you'll likely only find MTM/bespoke), or work out so you'll fill up your RTW jackets more, or slim down the trousers to balance out the top half, or just accept that RTW won't fit you perfectly and move on. If you keep asking similar questions you'll keep getting the same advice. Noodles has asked similar questions a dozen times, and every single time people give him similar advice. He doesn't get pissy about it though, as he's a good sport.

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Originally Posted by kulata View Post

If posture or body improvement advice is solicited, then by all means fire away.

So how do I go from...

THIS (Click to show)
nCttKuI.gif

to

someone with broad shoulders, narrow waist and hips?

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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post

I do I go from... THIS (Click to show)
nCttKuI.gif
to
someone with broad shoulders, narrow waist and hips?

Strictly based on my experience the most effective are:

1. Body weight pull-ups
2. Dead lifts
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Barre class.
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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post

So how do I go from... THIS (Click to show)
nCttKuI.gif
to
someone with broad shoulders, narrow waist and hips?

Lose all your fat, then do a bunch of targeted upper body exercises. I have a routine I use to rehab an existing shoulder injury which produces, incidentally, large gains in deltoid and lat size. Not being fat is way more important than getting a two inch extension on your shoulders from weightlifting though - way more important.
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Originally Posted by kulata View Post


Strictly based on my experience the most effective are:

1. Body weight pull-ups
2. Dead lifts

 

+1. Make sure you watch your form when doing deadlifts, Noodles, so don't go too heavy. Can be detrimental for your back when done incorrectly. 

 

Standing military press is also a good exercise for shoulders.

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In all seriousness, though, if you've never done olympic lifting, you should probably seek out a crossfit class or a trainer to at least get you started. Bad form is a killer and agree with MF that lower weight and higher reps is a better place to start.
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Originally Posted by kulata View Post


Strictly based on my experience the most effective are:

1. Body weight pull-ups
2. Dead lifts

:slayer:

 

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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post


Lose all your fat, then do a bunch of targeted upper body exercises. I have a routine I use to rehab an existing shoulder injury which produces, incidentally, large gains in deltoid and lat size. Not being fat is way more important than getting a two inch extension on your shoulders from weightlifting though - way more important.

Really? I thought fat turns into muscle. But I think you mean fat around my waist.

 

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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post
 

 

+1. Make sure you watch your form when doing deadlifts, Noodles, so don't go too heavy. Can be detrimental for your back when done incorrectly. 

 

Standing military press is also a good exercise for shoulders.

I can do this with 40 lbs dumbbells. (Click to show)
exercise-bands-two-arm-military-press.gif

 

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Originally Posted by jcmeyer View Post

In all seriousness, though, if you've never done olympic lifting, you should probably seek out a crossfit class or a trainer to at least get you started. Bad form is a killer and agree with MF that lower weight and higher reps is a better place to start.
Thx. I will take it easy. 

 

@StanleyVanBuren

This is just my opinion/advice with only good intentions. Seeing today's WAYWRN pic just made me wonder if you would actually benefit and look better by wearing GQish or ESQUIREish suits that are tapered and slim. Have you tried any? 


Edited by The Noodles - 6/16/15 at 10:07am
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Fat is fat. It's stored energy. I'm not a biochemist, but what you are saying sounds more like alchemy than physiology. Really, if you're serious about it just get a personal trainer. You don't need one forever, but at the start it's helpful.
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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post
 

:slayer:

 

Really? I thought fat turns into muscle. But I think you mean fat around my waist.

 

I can do this with 40 lbs dumbbells. (Click to show)
exercise-bands-two-arm-military-press.gif

 

 

Yep, shoulder dumbbell press is also good! Fat cannot be turned into muscle. 

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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post
 

 

@StanleyVanBuren

This is just my opinion/advice with only good intentions. Seeing today's WAYWRN pic just made me wonder if you would actually benefit and look better by wearing GQish or ESQUIREish suits that are tapered and slim. Have you tried any? 

 

Yes and there is certainly no shortage of images on my tumblr if you wanted to scroll though; here are the two primary examples, both are made from the same pattern (Epaulet x Southwick size 34R), in navy hopsack and medium grey super 120s wool:

 

 

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tumblr_nlotl2WMVT1r8bgano1_540.jpg 

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^^^ I think that looks great. A wider lapel, wider tie, and a bit less cuff and it would be timeless. Sure there's something a little off about the pants, but you look great.

edit: in reference to your first picture, prior to the ninja edit.
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