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Originally Posted by kulata View Post

Second one isn't navy more like steel blue or slate but I am still looking for that fabric.


The injunction I meant to trash was against blue trousers navy or otherwise. Just wasn't as clear as I could have been.

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Curious: how much of the anti-navy trousers sentiment is associated especially with navy worsteds?  I have seen people rock linen, wool twill, and tweed/marled flannel trousers in navy and/or dark blue very effectively with brown and grey sportcoats, but they rarely get love even when they are very obviously distinct from orphaned suit trousers.  Is it a color thing, an association thing, an "I hate northern lights" thing, or all of the above?


Here's the problem, for me, with navy and grey trousers. In many cases, what are often sold at fine and less fine stores as odd trousers are worsted (just go to Nordstroms). So, I can't help seeing them as orphaned products of a suit nor would many of you. Textured stuff is desirable, and if you are having trousers made, make sure it is more textured (linen or silk mixes for summer stuff, hopsack, fresco; flannels are a no brainer for winter).

 

Again this is all advice: if you prefer a non "Northen Lights" look, more power to you. I like it myself. But injunctions on these issues are tired and tiresome. Hell, if you have navy worsted trews, wear them (just not here or in WAYWRN of course).

 

The point of the two pics is (let me be professorial) an existence proof that navy/blue can work.

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Five dollars says that Mrs. Noodles is well aware that Noodles is still using SF and just politely ignoring it (I think one of the keys to a good marriage is knowing when to let the other think he/she is getting away with something)
Sometimes I can see that she knows but chooses not to fight the battle. But until I fill the holes in my closet, I have to be active on SF...that and being a clown in this thread.

But I think you're right on this. She knows.
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Originally Posted by kulata View Post

Second one isn't navy more like steel blue or slate but I am still looking for that fabric.

I was able to find a steel blue trouser made by Hertling (I'm sure you know already but they make the pants for HY, Dapper Classics, and one other online seller I think). Way better than navy.
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quality wise HY is very good? Better than EP####?
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...one of the criticisms (which I don't understand) of @in stitches is that his CM game never really coalesced into any "personal style." I've never understood that this is a bad thing. I think it might be true--that, if one were to lay out some items, sans the wearer, we'd be able to say, "oh, that's stitchy"--but that's just a feeling and I'm not sure I can explain it (and therefore trust it). I will say that his MC Casual and SWD stuff seems to convey more Stitchy-ness for whatever reason.

 

Regardless, developing a personal sense of style is an interesting and somewhat nebulous concept.

 

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I am not aware that I have style to begin with, let alone any distinct kind of style. :/

 

 

A bit late into this convo - I find it hard to keep up with this hear thred - but I am conscious of my own lack of a personal style. I feel like my WAYWRN fits are all over the place.

 

Stitchy's perspective appears to be that (for him anyway) that's not a bad thing. But sometimes I feel like I should be gradually trying to coalesce my own efforts into a Coxy "signature look". Certainly no such thing exists in my own mind at this point.

 

OTOH I have had comments from the likes of @Pliny and perhaps others, referring to certain fits of mine (particularly odd-jacket fits with earthy/brown fabrics) as being "very Coxy" or some such. That's great, I love the earthy/rustic look (as exemplified by @UrbanComposition's stellar fit from yesterday), but that's probably at most 30% of my actual wardrobe.

 

Meanwhile, I'm just drifting along. Country gent one day, city slicker the next. Who knows whether I will ever develop a signature style. Is that even a goal to aspire to?

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quality wise HY is very good? Better than EP####?

Ha, that's the other online seller I was trying to think of. Hertling makes their pants, too.

I don't like Ep##### because of the W### cut they've chosen to use as their biggest seller. It's cut pretty trim and the leg opening is too small for my taste. I also have a size 12 shoe so a narrow leg opening looks insanely stupid. I'd argue it looks stupid no matter what, but that's whatever ...

Edit: Went with the good ol' hashtags, too
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Interesting. This is not the first time where someone said that they preferred HY over EP#### despite their non-existent customer service.

KW pants are freaking good thus far.
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Originally Posted by TM79 View Post

I was able to find a steel blue trouser made by Hertling (I'm sure you know already but they make the pants for HY, Dapper Classics, and one other online seller I think). Way better than navy.
oh please link?
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Originally Posted by kulata View Post

oh please link?

I snagged from my local B&M. I will check all the tags at home tonight to see if there is any sort of fabric # or anything on there that could help you. I'll also snap a close up so you can see the shade of blue that they are - I'd definitely call them steel blue.
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quality wise HY is very good? Better than EP####?

 

Don't buy HY.

 

Quality good, but you could possibly lose money. (return at your own risk)

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Don't buy HY.

Quality good, but you could possibly lose money. (return at your own risk)

I'm four for four but likely will not tempt fate. I'm waiting for New Shoes to get/review his order from Dapper Classics and then I may switch over to them for online orders of Hertling pants.
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I snagged from my local B&M. I will check all the tags at home tonight to see if there is any sort of fabric # or anything on there that could help you. I'll also snap a close up so you can see the shade of blue that they are - I'd definitely call them steel blue.
Awesome

Thanks!
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Don't buy HY.

Quality good, but you could possibly lose money. (return at your own risk)

This. I prefer HY but just won't risk it anymore. I have a pair from DC on the way. And I like the W### cut from E######, but I wear a size 7-8 shoes, so the slimmed leg opening works well.
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Do you have basic light beige or white chinos? There's something very summery about this jacket IRL and what may create some discomfort for you here is that you're making it more autumnal. I'd go white or very light beige cotton dress chinos, white linen shirt, open neck, and embrace the seasonality of the piece.

 

Great point about the seasonality. I hadn't thought about it in those terms. I am not a good summer dresser--I don't have any instinctive sense about dressing that way in MC terms and other than lighter weight fabrics, don't have a lot of truly summery stuff, including chinos in those colors (grey and green only). The light beige Rota are waiting to go to the tailor, but that and the cream that I posted a photo of are about as close as I've got.

 
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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post

quality wise HY is very good? Better than EP####?

Ha, that's the other online seller I was trying to think of. Hertling makes their pants, too.

I don't like Ep##### because of the W### cut they've chosen to use as their biggest seller. It's cut pretty trim and the leg opening is too small for my taste. I also have a size 12 shoe so a narrow leg opening looks insanely stupid. I'd argue it looks stupid no matter what, but that's whatever ...

Edit: Went with the good ol' hashtags, too

 

You could try the Rudy cut. Yes, you'd have to MTO them, but it's much more along the lines of what you describe.
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Very true - I do keep the Rudy MTO option in mind but I have yet to see a fabric that's interesting enough or hard to find where it's worth the wait time and extra cost. It could happen for sure, though.

For now, I do like 2 offerings by DC so I hope the reviews are favorable there. I also hope they do well for themselves and get the confidence to offer more inventory and options.
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