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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post

That's kind of the point. If Manton had no influence no one would be saying it but him. I'm not saying that he is the first to ever think so. Nor am I saying that the opinion that charcoal trousers are not versatile is without merit. I happen to agree. However, to say they have no history, or violate some mythical "rule" is incorrect. 

I'm not sure I agree. I do agree that Manton has had a great influence on SF, but I don't think that Manton is the only reason why people are not fans of charcoal odd trousers (after all, you yourself agree that charcoal trousers are not particularly versatile). Personally, I came to dislike charcoal odd trousers when I started wearing more odd jackets and became more conscious of how trousers and jackets work together. I never had an issue with them even 5 years ago where I'd frequently be seen in odd trousers and a dress shirt without a jacket at business casual settings.

As far as history goes, I agree that I've seen a fair amount of charcoal odd trousers (of course, the fact that they existed does not mean they were seen as good or admired). As much as many of us admire certain traditions in clothing, we shouldn't delude ourselves into thinking that a majority of the population was ever well-dressed (this gets to the do they have precedent and what does that mean point). I know Manton has reasons for his navy trouser rule but don't recall him mentioning a similar rule against charcoal odd trousers. There's also always the possibility that there is / was a rule, but it is something that people no longer care about.
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I am a northeastern Asian.
I think I can look bad@ss in black suits! Who's with me?!
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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post

I am a northeastern Asian.
I think I can look bad@ss in black suits! Who's with me?!

Now you're just trying to stir up shit...
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post

I am a northeastern Asian.
I think I can look bad@ss in black suits! Who's with me?!

Oh Daesu is!

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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post

I am a northeastern Asian.
I think I can look bad@ss in black suits! Who's with me?!

With you
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We rook just arike!
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^Can't see anything but his face and awful tie.

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Originally Posted by Bill Dlwgosh View Post
 

I didn't think you were suggesting anything to crazy but the phrasing struck me at an angle.

 

That's fair enough.

 

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Originally Posted by archibaldleach View Post


I don't think that Manton is the only reason why people are not fans of charcoal odd trousers

 

I never suggested he was. Sorry if I made it seem like I did. :confused: 

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Originally Posted by Bill Dlwgosh View Post

Not sure all of these are charcoal/dark grey pants but they all appear close enough:

edit: Thank You for the link. I have read posts of Manton deriding Navy Trousers but not that particular thread.





Timotune was one of my favorite SF posters, I'm disappointed he isn't active anymore. Noodles, you should check out some of his old fits for inspiration.
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^I like that he doesn't actually have a mustache in that pic, somebody photoshopped his eyebrows on to his lip.

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Thread Starter 

I actually get a lot of PM's because of this thread (maybe 2-4 times a month) asking for GNA. Happened to get two today. No clue why they don't post in thread--not all of them are lurkers--but I'm always more than happy to help.

 

I generally don't share, but I was asked today about neckties, and you guys know how much I love neckties. Guy wears a lot of navy suits with white and blue shirts, and I gave him some general suggestions about what I'd look for in ties for navy suits and pointed him in the direction of Exquisite Trimmings (as well as two ties which were both excellent and on sale). He went and purchased these five (including the two sale ties, the brown grenadine for 35 pounds and the cashmere silk PoW for 45 pounds).

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

- Brown Grenadine

- Brown Neat

- Green Neat

- Wine Neat

- Grey POW

I'd say that's an excellent GNAT haul.

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Those ties are perfect. Great advice Clags and congrats to whoever kopped
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I think my next batch of ties will be 5 solids from Hober as I look to add some suits (don't have any wearable suits atm) to my closet. I can't imagine anyone would tell me that's a wrong move, aside from maybe my wife. 

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I have a green neat just like that one...same colorway exactly but different neat design...love that tie...one of my favorites. 

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Originally Posted by Mr. Six View Post
 

^^^ Note that every example posted has the charcoal trousers paired with a brown or grey coat that's lighter than the trousers. Every debate on the topic identifies those as pretty much the only things that work with charcoal. I think it's illustrative that those are the examples that everyone pulled out.

Gonna start by saying I'm new to SF. Not sure if my post is in line with the discussion or what as there are a lot of posts to read back through, and if it is I apologize, but if not, here we go.

 

 

When I wonder what to do with charcoal I think of the value scale from my past art classes. Make the charcoal seem lighter by going darker . I must say though, I have an aversion to charcoal pants as it was part of my school uniform for so long, but they can be paired with a black patterned sportcoat (maybe a big windowpane), or something with a bit of texture to absorb the light like a velvet, or navy jacket with tan elbowpads and matching tan shoes. Or, rock the charcoal pants with a navy jacket and burgundy shoes belt and tie and have a psuedo red-white-blue color scheme... only we use darker values of all of those things. Heck, grab one of those super dark navy jackets with pewter buttons... I mean... the buttons man! They have to match something!

not exactly charcoal but you get the idea.

 

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