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Finally saved enough for my first SF suit.    I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on this which is at a local shop.   Thoughts?   My next option would probably be a Suit Supply Napoli or York. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Is that supposed to be a suit or a SC? Hard to judge a suit with no pants, and hard to be a SC (a worsted with flapped pockets)
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

Is that supposed to be a suit or a SC? Hard to judge a suit with no pants, and hard to be a SC (a worsted with flapped pockets)

It's supposed to be a suit.   I wasn't able to get a pic with the pants as I'm in between sizes.   Waist of one and legs of another.   They either have to let out a pair at the legs or take in a pair at the waist.  Maybe I can go in and have them pin up the bigger waisted pants.  

 

Any input on the fit of the shoulders and chest areas? 

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Looks like a suit more than a jacket, and it's not even a close decision to me ...

Also, the only similarity I see between this jacket and Vox's is the fact that both have an overcheck. Which is to say they aren't very similar at all, since a lot of jackets have overchecks.

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I've never seen a houndstooth suit with a multicolored overcheck.  

Thank you for your input. I may try with a couple different colors of trouser and make a decision afterward. I think you are right that it does lean toward suit but I may wear it anyway (just not around these parts lol).
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Originally Posted by dazedstate View Post

I understand but hoped that the pattern was strong enough to stand on its own.
There are a couple things that prevent this jacket from standing on its own.

1) fabric (smooth worsted)
2) pattern (muted plaid)
3) details (flap pockets)

Casualise one or all three and you've got a winner.
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If it helps, this is the jacket TweedyProf referred to:

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If it helps, this is the jacket TweedyProf referred to:

It does thank you. Beautiful coat.
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I had to go back and actually look at your jacket dazedstate. I think that beyond what UC listed above, the shoulders are a bit wide/strong. Nothing wrong with structured shoulders, but in this instance it adds to the suit jacket look. Do you still have the option of returning it? Otherwise I'd probably cut my losses and sell it on eBay and use the proceeds towards a new sport coat with these details:

- 3 roll 2 or 2 buttons
- Patch pockets
- Natural shoulders

In a versatile colour, such as blue, navy, brown or green.
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Thank you, I definitely agree with the structured shoulders. Even my suits have soft shoulders so it's not really my thing. Failed experiment but not a big deal. I'll sell it on eBay. Thank you to all who weighed in.
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Originally Posted by TM79 View Post

Also, the only similarity I see between this jacket and Vox's is the fact that both have an overcheck. Which is to say they aren't very similar at all, since a lot of jackets have overchecks.


TM79, I think if you look, you'll see that they both have overchecks over a check or check-like pattern. From a distance, they resolve in a similar way pattern wise: check over check. Of course, there is a world of difference between the jackets but since the OP brought up the strength of pattern, the contrast with Vox's is instructive: Vox's stronger pattern and striking seasonal colors.

 

@dazedstate 

 

My advice is similar to the others: if you can, replace the jacket and generally avoid grey odd jackets in favor of blue or brown tones, looking for stronger patterns, casualizing elements like patch pockets, more textured fabrics etc. If you find a good grey odd jacket (like Urban's) then by all means go for it, but not for starters.

 

That said, we all live outside of SF and make clothing compromises when other's aren't looking. I have a navy suit orphan jacket that fits me well and use as an odd navy blazer. Some day, I'll find a better substitute, but I wear it happily and it looks nice, flapped pockets and dark buttons aside. If you like the way your jacket looks, wear it but just not on WAYWRN. :)

 

And you should still post fit pics with that jacket as that was your original question.

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If it helps, this is the jacket TweedyProf referred to:
  Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Yes, that's the one. Beautiful. The sort of jacket that doesn't need a square though I suspect you sometimes pop one in?

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Not often. If I do it's either gotta be a very small pattern or very large one. Color would be cream, navy, or black.
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More wardrobe planning, less impulse purchases! Foo did this to an extreme with his one-everything, but at least some kind of wardrobe planning would be helpful for many, myself included.

 

This is sage advice but it's extremely difficult to internalise. I've been on SF for some two years now, and yet the only reason I've stopped impulse-buying (recently) is because I have way too many clothes and my wardrobe is bursting.

 

Fortunately I have now, through sheer kopping volume, managed to acquire most if not all of the basics. The only items I'm still missing are ones I would be unlikely to wear anyway - a plain charcoal suit and a pair of plain cap-toe oxfords. These would be too conservative for my work and also wrong for my personality.

 

My current plan is to gradually replace parts of my collection with better-quality stuff: basically, bespoke instead of OTR. I really need to start putting up some stuff on eBay to clear space.

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More wardrobe planning, less impulse purchases!  [...]

 

This is sage advice but it's extremely difficult to internalise. [...]

 

Indeed.

 

These days with anything less than a full suit I force myself to imagine exactly what the rest of the outfit would consist of.

 

It’s kept me from buying quite a few ties, if nothing else.  One has to start somewhere, I suppose.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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Cream and white should work. The cream trousers I have didn't look great. I'm not a white trousers guy. Navy trousers look OK but ... navy trousers ARE GREAT WHEN DONE RIGHT.
 

 

FTFY

 

But ... rules, man!

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@Mr. Six 

 

I suspect less yellow in the cream trousers might help? White would be perfect. Have you tried tan.

 

On blue trousers, I understand the challenge but I am imagining a lightly textured slate blue wool-linen-maybe silk mix (I have such a pair). The slate blue pulls in the gray from the jacket as well as distance it from navy, and the textures would pull it away from the orphan look. You'd have to find a pair and see if it actually works.

 

There's a picture of Alan See from the Armoury in grey with navy trousers that I thought looked good. Can't find it tho.

 

 

 

The cream trousers I have are a bit yellow. It's entirely possible that I just don't like the trousers. I actually tried the coat with navy trousers that are a wool/silk blend. The navy looks OK, but see above. I also tried it with air force blue/grey trousers, and those looked OK too. It's an interesting experiment. I'll see if I can find the photo of Alan See. That would be helpful. UC's photo is too (and a great look, of course).

 

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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post
And this is why one should think about how to wear an item before buying it. Unless you don't mind having a massive wardrobe and have lots of money to spend on clothes, it's not exactly practical to search for the perfect shade of slate blue trousers in a linen mix just so you can wear that one jacket you bought.

 

More wardrobe planning, less impulse purchases! Foo did this to an extreme with his one-everything, but at least some kind of wardrobe planning would be helpful for many, myself included.

 

I agree, but in my case, I can return it. I wouldn't have gotten it otherwise, since I wasn't sure about exactly this issue.

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