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I would not wear loafers with a tie, especially squidgy suede loafers.  Jacket and open shirt, yes.  Chinos and shirt sleeves, definitely.

 

Then again I wouldn't wear polished tassel loafers with a suit either, though I've seen it done well by elegant southern Euro types.

 

Each to his own: it's not anything really heinous like, say, a horse bit loafer...

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I would not wear loafers with a tie, especially squidgy suede loafers.  Jacket and open shirt, yes.  Chinos and shirt sleeves, definitely.

Then again I wouldn't wear polished tassel loafers with a suit either, though I've seen it done well by elegant southern Euro types.

Each to his own: it's not anything really heinous like, say, a horse bit loafer...
I agree a formal tie and a broadcloth shirt with french collar might be too much for the loafers I suggested. They might work, but only just.
But I think these loafers might work well with more casual items i.e a knit tie and a oxford button down. Afterall they are casual items. I know many people around here don't like bd shirts with ties, but I do.
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Awesome insight, Uncle Nemo! Appreciate it! But those Hallams are UK8.5F.

I know I am all over the place but been looking at SuSu and can't find a dang suit that I like. Will look at Kent Wang but my budget is only 500USD.

 

If you've been looking at their website, good though it is, you can't get a true feel for SuSu's RTW stuff without trying it on. Even within one block (say for instance Havana), you get a lot of variation depending on the type of fabric and other almost-intangible factors.

 

Last week I was in their Shanghai store and tried on quite a few suits. I would pick out one based on the cloth, check the label for block, pop it on...and dislike the way it hung off my frame. Then I would try on another one which I had completely overlooked on first pass, and it fitted like a glove. And so on.

 

I believe there's a SuSu B&M store in Washington DC, yes? I recommend keeping your five C's handy and just popping in every month or so. (They refresh their stock quite regularly so there will always be something new to try on.) Something will eventually turn up that fits well and looks great. At which point, kop, and get them to do any fine adjustments in-house, as it's comparatively cheap.

 

Others may contradict this advice as it advocates a form of "impulse buying". But it's worked well for me - I've picked up some great suits from the Shanghai store over the past couple of years, including one that I'll be debuting on WAYWRN this week.

 

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I agree a formal tie and a broadcloth shirt with french collar might be too much for the loafers I suggested. They might work, but only just.
But I think these loafers might work well with more casual items i.e a knit tie and a oxford button down. Afterall they are casual items. I know many people around here don't like bd shirts with ties, but I do.

 

This is a complex issue. One could apply Vox's city/country analysis, but there are other spectra which are equally valid: formal/casual, or even Euro/US. On the latter scale, I'm not sure about combining an OCBD with tassel loafers. The first strikes me as very Ivy, whereas the latter is more Neapolitan. I could be very wrong about this of course, but tassel loafers to me suggest no socks, linen pants, unstructured jackets, and yeah - lose the tie.

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Wearing Ferragamo bit loafers today. I'd have bought the Gucci ones but they don't make them in wide widths. I also see no issue wearing these with a tie, though a suit would be too much. I think this is something SF just has an irrational aversion to due to its disdain for brands that are seen as expensive more due to marketing than quality.
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The hate for bit loafers here is over the top ridiculous. I like them with chinos or my yoruba gear.
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I just think they look tacky...
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I think the reason they are so popular among the (non-SF) public is because many times the metal bit is a way for them to show off that they are wearing an expensive brand, just like those flashy Ferragamo or Hermes belt buckles.

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I think the reason they are so popular among the (non-SF) public is because many times the metal bit is a way for them to show off that they are wearing an expensive brand, just like those flashy Ferragamo or Hermes belt buckles.

My brother gave me a Ferragamo belt. I wear it. I never would have bought it.
Then again, I pay zero attention to branding on clothing ( I do notice watches from miles away cause I inlove.gif them so)
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I think the reason they are so popular among the (non-SF) public is because many times the metal bit is a way for them to show off that they are wearing an expensive brand, just like those flashy Ferragamo or Hermes belt buckles.

Right. It reminds me of the branding on women's shoes. It's just not appealing to me. It also just reminds me of tacky power suits since that's when they came into vogue.

I also think that there are a billion other pairs of shoes that would look better when substitutes for bit loafers.

I don't dislike loafers though. Just bit loafers.
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Bit loafers can be tacky, but they don't have to be. I used to dislike them with no rational reason behind it. I sat and thought about it and I've abandoned that. I still don't wear them but I don't think they are "wrong".

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Horses for courses
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Horses for courses

 

well placed in the bit loafer convo

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I hate bit loafers. But I just don't like the way they look. Beyond that, I don't really have any notions about them or the wearers.

Cox, OCBD shirts and TASSEKS are a common combination Stateside. No disconnect. Not my thing, but it's definitely a thing.
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Also, somehow the bit loafers discussion feels like a passive aggressive attack on AAS. A hostile workplace sort of thing.
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