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post #22996 of 37392
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
 

@LA Guy


Fok, man the thumb comments addition then removal was annoying as hell. Is there any chance to show who liked the comment and what they said as a spoiler in the same line bar as the thumb? It would make life so much easier on mobile platforms. Or just make an app.

 

Not free to make, I know, but the mobile experience is pretty ratchet sometimes. 

Not just not free to make - it takes a lot of time.  But.. yes, an app is in the works.

 

The thumb comments we removed because, as implemented, the reintroduction was not generally well received by the community.  It was a "wel, it might be good, but it might be bad, The additional click decreased the use of the like function by close to 40% on first reintroduction, which recovered slightly, but to 25% under usual rates.  We've since recovered.  We do take anecdotal evidence into consideration, but a lot of our decisions are data driven, and that one was a clear no-no.

 

 I think that like comments could be cool, but it would require a revamp of the system, and there is no clear paradigm for doing this in an efficient manner.  Instagram, tumblr, faebook, pinterest, twitter, all have comments and likes separated.  That makes no sense on a forum, where the dialogue is post, and not comment, driven (i.e. a much flatter, even playing field for all participants).  I've thought a bit about a good UX for likes with integrated comments, but honestly, have not come up with anything non-annoying that allows both a one click like and an optional comment.

 

I really like the mobile version of the site, with some reservations, and data indicates that my personal experience is the norm.  But there are some minor, but rather obvious, issues, like the inability to see at least the number of likes on a post.

post #22997 of 37392

I really appreciate the openness with which you all address the issues with the forum, features, etc. Other places might simply make changes with little or no explanation, which frustrates users. Knowing a little about what is going on behind the scenes really helps one feel a part of the community.

post #22998 of 37392
I think the mobile version of the site is very good. There is always room for improvement, but it does the job for me. Juss sayin'.
post #22999 of 37392
I too really like the mobile platform, it is very streamlined.
post #23000 of 37392
Just when I thought I had enough striped ties..

this HC is awesome

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post #23001 of 37392
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

 
@LA Guy



Fok, man the thumb comments addition then removal was annoying as hell. Is there any chance to show who liked the comment and what they said as a spoiler in the same line bar as the thumb? It would make life so much easier on mobile platforms. Or just make an app.

Not free to make, I know, but the mobile experience is pretty ratchet sometimes. 
Not just not free to make - it takes a lot of time.  But.. yes, an app is in the works.

The thumb comments we removed because, as implemented, the reintroduction was not generally well received by the community.  It was a "wel, it might be good, but it might be bad, The additional click decreased the use of the like function by close to 40% on first reintroduction, which recovered slightly, but to 25% under usual rates.  We've since recovered.  We do take anecdotal evidence into consideration, but a lot of our decisions are data driven, and that one was a clear no-no.

 I think that like comments could be cool, but it would require a revamp of the system, and there is no clear paradigm for doing this in an efficient manner.  Instagram, tumblr, faebook, pinterest, twitter, all have comments and likes separated.  That makes no sense on a forum, where the dialogue is post, and not comment, driven (i.e. a much flatter, even playing field for all participants).  I've thought a bit about a good UX for likes with integrated comments, but honestly, have not come up with anything non-annoying that allows both a one click like and an optional comment.

I really like the mobile version of the site, with some reservations, and data indicates that my personal experience is the norm.  But there are some minor, but rather obvious, issues, like the inability to see at least the number of likes on a post.

Is it not possible (or easily implementable) to make the functionality of the thumb an option? So people who want it to be one click can have it that way and people who want to be able to leave thumb comments can turn that on?
post #23002 of 37392
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Originally Posted by Mr. Six View Post


Is it not possible (or easily implementable) to make the functionality of the thumb an option? So people who want it to be one click can have it that way and people who want to be able to leave thumb comments can turn that on?

Nearly impossible as the code is written, unfortunately.

post #23003 of 37392
Thumb comments suck the life out of the discussion. You have some people commenting in the thread, which is visible to all and effectively visible in real time. Thumb comments require you to go back through the thread looking for thumbs, clicking to see if there are any comments, and, if you've already thumbed, leaving you unable to respond. They're just goofy. I'm amused by the complaints that comments as posts somehow derail the thread.
post #23004 of 37392
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

Thumb comments suck the life out of the discussion. You have some people commenting in the thread, which is visible to all and effectively visible in real time. Thumb comments require you to go back through the thread looking for thumbs, clicking to see if there are any comments, and, if you've already thumbed, leaving you unable to respond. They're just goofy. I'm amused by the complaints that comments as posts somehow derail the thread.

Indeed, if styleforum were just a bunch of dudes posting pics we might as well all move over to tumblr. It's the comments, and the discussion that sometimes follows, which sets SF apart.

For example, the waywrn is slowly devolving into just posting pics and thumbing, with less of the criticism of the old days. Those thumbs might give people happy feelings when their outfits, and thus the wearer, is validated, but I'd say they're the least valuable part of the forum, and wouldnt miss them at all.
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Different note, embrace it!
I feel so much better already. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
post #23006 of 37392
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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post

For example, the waywrn is slowly devolving into just posting pics and thumbing, with less of the criticism of the old days. Those thumbs might give people happy feelings when their outfits, and thus the wearer, is validated, but I'd say they're the least valuable part of the forum, and wouldnt miss them at all.

 

I was thinking the opposite. The criticisms I've seen lately seem to be said when warranted and directed at old members and new. They are usually pretty solid too. I got a great criticism about my latest tie choice, and this was on a fit that has gotten 30+ thumbs. I think its just that usually once a member starts posting certain combos despite criticism it becomes clear that they just like it, regardless of what others might have to say. In that case what can you criticize? 

post #23007 of 37392

I think more conversation in WAYWT would be good, but I like the thumb comments as a way to offer a particular compliment or a small note that's probably not worth full discussion.

post #23008 of 37392
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

Thumb comments suck the life out of the discussion. You have some people commenting in the thread, which is visible to all and effectively visible in real time. Thumb comments require you to go back through the thread looking for thumbs, clicking to see if there are any comments, and, if you've already thumbed, leaving you unable to respond. They're just goofy. I'm amused by the complaints that comments as posts somehow derail the thread.

 

Agreed.  It's not a good idea in my opinion to have comments in two different places.

 

Regarding WAYWRN, I think a bigger issue right now (and, no, it's not a big deal for me), is that people have gotten out of the habit of spoilering photos in quoted posts.  It's not uncommon to see a post with five or six very large photos being quoted in full with the only thing added being a single word like 'nice!'

 

As I said, it's not a big deal for me since I always read SF on a desktop or laptop computer and can quickly scroll past these things.  But I do feel for those members who are trying to read the thread on their phones.

 

Perhaps a periodic and polite reminder from a moderator might be in order?

 

Just a thought.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

post #23009 of 37392
Or auto-spoilering when images are quoted, but that feature request continues to fall on deaf ears...

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And, call me a pedant, but maybe not call it "Warning: Spoiler" as the default, when hiding a spoiler is basically never the purpose on this forum.  Confused the hell out of me when I first joined.  How about "Click to see quoted text"?

 

But yeah, what Butch said.  And yes to seeing thumbs on mobile, and no to thumb comments.  In case anyone cares. :)

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