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post #22096 of 37533
The anti-black shoe bias here is so odd. Black shoes are a cornerstone of classic menswear. You shouldn't even be allowed to wear another color show until you've dominated the game in black.
post #22097 of 37533
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Originally Posted by Patrick R View Post

The anti-black shoe bias here is so odd. Black shoes are a cornerstone of classic menswear. You shouldn't even be allowed to wear another color show until you've dominated the game in black.

 

I'd better quilt then... :embar:

post #22098 of 37533
My grandma has some nice patterns to teach you. Get on with yo bad self. wink.gif
post #22099 of 37533
I think the anti black shoe hate is nothing more than personal preference, not some kind of SF approved mantra/group think.

A wrong preference of course, but a preference all the same. Derp.
post #22100 of 37533

I like (casual) black shoes...

post #22101 of 37533
Black shoes are easy, especially with suits. It's not shocking that there are going to be some people who enjoy the challenges of learning about classic menswear who go far off the deep end. Brown shoes can be very elegant and beautiful in a lot of outfits, even if they are not the most formal choice, but personal preference goes too far IMO here when people actually start acting with contempt towards black shoes. That's about as rational as hating navy suits.
post #22102 of 37533
I think I should correct my stance. Its not that I hate black shoes. I just dont prefer them when given a choice of wearing black or brown. I go to brown almost 99% of the time. My only exception would be obvs a black suit which I also dont own or need.
post #22103 of 37533
Once all black shoes have been eliminated... Those with black hair are next. What will be the approved styleforum hair color for those with the wrong natural hair color? I'm thinking tobacco or oxblood
post #22104 of 37533
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

..., get one black cap toe.  Make it a fantastic one.  Maybe black cordovan if you want a subtle bit of character?

That's exactly what I did for my only black shoe.  Shell punch cap.  Now I practically ooze with character. :)

post #22105 of 37533

It  seems as a couple of members own black double monks. So the question is, do you wear it with suits or with sport coats? If with the latter, how do you put together the rest of the outfit? Obviously, with black shoes you'll become limitied as a lot of opportunities falls away, such as brown accessories (tie, PS). Or you would think, at least. Would love to see some good examples including SCs and black double monks.

post #22106 of 37533

I found myself rarely wearing my black Park Aves (though that has a lot to do with the shape and fit) and wanting something affordable and black in my shoe rotation so I purchased these about 1.5 years ago and now really enjoy having a pair of black shoes in my wardrobe. They won't work in the most formal settings but I've found them to be acceptable almost anywhere else I would wear a solid navy or gray suit or trim-fitting gray wool trousers.

 

 

 

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF7715_1_40000000001_-1

post #22107 of 37533

I don't wear black DM's with SC's (I only own a couple of these, and they're all quite summery given my location, so black wouldn't work well), but do with suits.  Holdfast almost always has/had black DM's in his fit pics.

post #22108 of 37533
Black monks, grey trousers, blue jacket. Done. Works with casual suits as well in the right color. Also would work with a black/white herringbone tweed jacket. Sure it doesn't go with everything, but it's hardly limited in any meaningful sense.
post #22109 of 37533
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Originally Posted by archibaldleach View Post

Black monks, grey trousers, blue jacket. Done. Works with casual suits as well in the right color. Also would work with a black/white herringbone tweed jacket. Sure it doesn't go with everything, but it's hardly limited in any meaningful sense.

Maybe I was unclear: it's relatively limited, not absolut. I'm not questioning, just being curious on how to pair them up. The fit you described would be one good way, and the most obvious. Thanks.

What about outside the security guard spectrum? What about with tie?

post #22110 of 37533
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Originally Posted by DonRaphael View Post

Maybe I was unclear: it's relatively limited, not absolut. I'm not questioning, just being curious on how to pair them up. The fit you described would be one good way, and the most obvious. Thanks.
What about outside the security guard spectrum? What about with tie?

For odd jackets, you can probably do more with dark brown double monks than black double monks. So while there are some looks that work best with black double monks versus brown, the brown ones will be more versatile in the odd jacket context.

I stand by my recommendation of pretty much any grey trouser. I don't love navy odd trousers with jackets, but that's beyond the scope here and they would work with the black double monk. I do think that blue jackets and grey tweed and herringbone are the best bet. I think the "security guard" concern is a bit overhyped around here, but I'd point out that blue jackets cover navy blazers of all sorts, blue Donegal, blue herringbone tweed, pretty much any blue jacket with checks in the Moonbeam and similar fabric books, linen, tropical weight wool checks and a bunch of other things that are not a blazer. As far as grey jackets are concerned, they're harder to pair with grey trousers but there are some really nice salt and pepper tweeds, houndstooth jackets, etc. A cream jacket for summer in the evening could also work. I'd think pretty much any tie other than brown would not be an issue.
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