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^ Many people seldom "need" a black stitch cap or punch cap oxford, but when you do there really is no substitute. I sort of feel similarly about my dinner jacket. I wear it maybe 4-5 times a year, but when I do I am glad that I have one that I like a lot and look my best in. The times one needs black stitch cap or punch cap oxfords are similar. While they may not occur often, it is great to be able to own something that helps you look your best when the need arises. Plus black stitch cap or punch cap oxfords can be worn other times one wears a suit, even if one normally prefers brown shoes.
post #22067 of 37396
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Originally Posted by Murlsquirl View Post

You, fool, is crazy.



+ effin 1. I also understand the problem that black shoes don't seem to have that much appeal; a punch cap still retains most of the simplicity one needs from the one black shoe one has and adds some interest compared to a plain black oxford. (Yes, I realize the Vass U above is an Adelaide)
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I wear black shoes when I have to wear a suit for work and I feel it plays better with white shirts than brown shoes.
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All of this on this page nod[1].gif

(My page has three posts up there btw)
post #22070 of 37396
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Originally Posted by Murlsquirl View Post

You, fool, is crazy.




Those look awesome. Are they a standard model you can buy directly from Vass or are they MTO?
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@Murlsquirl how does the grey flannel Formosa hold up in mild west coast climates? When does it become uncomfortable?

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JK, when it comes down to it, you don't need them.  If you don't work in a conservative business environment where black is the norm (and I remember you don't), then you're all about the style and less about the conformity. I get it.  Brown shoes are great with navy, burgundy is great with grey, etc etc.

 

But.  Although nobody will spit at you for wearing dark brown shoes to a funeral, and maybe most people won't  notice the difference at that big regional sales meeting, it's doesn't make the "no black ever" choice completely fireproof: you might not go to black tie dos, but one day you  might want to.  You might have that big interview when you know that the chair is a old fart with sharp eye for detail.  You might just, one day, want to go monochrome.  You're a stylish guy, and styles evolve always.

 

So as you have a lot of shoes, wear a lot of shoes, buy a lot of shoes, and get a good deal on a lot of shoes, get one black cap toe.  Make it a fantastic one.  Maybe black cordovan if you want a subtle bit of character? But no more character than that.  It might not be something you need, but "need" is a pretty nebulous concept in your shoe-buying (and most of ours).  Sometimes less is more, and one day your black cap toe will be the best choice, even for that day alone.  

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You, fool, is crazy.

 

 

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+1.  Enzo Bonafe from Skoak for under 500 USD (pic by Shouldaville)

post #22074 of 37396
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Originally Posted by sebastian mcfox View Post

@Murlsquirl
 how does the grey flannel Formosa hold up in mild west coast climates? When does it become uncomfortable?

I wear can wear it year round, but will grab something else if it's going to get above the low 70s.
post #22075 of 37396
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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post

Those look awesome. Are they a standard model you can buy directly from Vass or are they MTO?

Everything directly from Vass is MTO....unless you can get to Budapest and find something on the shelves. Those aren't mine....looks like the U last.
post #22076 of 37396
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

JK, when it comes down to it, you don't need them.  If you don't work in a conservative business environment where black is the norm (and I remember you don't), then you're all about the style and less about the conformity. I get it.  Brown shoes are great with navy, burgundy is great with grey, etc etc.

But.  Although nobody will spit at you for wearing dark brown shoes to a funeral, and maybe most people won't  notice the difference at that big regional sales meeting, it's doesn't make the "no black ever" choice completely fireproof: you might not go to black tie dos, but one day you  might want to.  You might have that big interview when you know that the chair is a old fart with sharp eye for detail.  You might just, one day, want to go monochrome.  You're a stylish guy, and styles evolve always.

So as you have a lot of shoes, wear a lot of shoes, buy a lot of shoes, and get a good deal on a lot of shoes, get one black cap toe.  Make it a fantastic one.  Maybe black cordovan if you want a subtle bit of character? But no more character than that.  It might not be something you need, but "need" is a pretty nebulous concept in your shoe-buying (and most of ours).  Sometimes less is more, and one day your black cap toe will be the best choice, even for that day alone.  

Thanks bro!
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+1.  Enzo Bonafe from Skoak for under 500 USD (pic by Shouldaville)


I saw those and even humored myself to see if the size was there and it wasn't. I do think that's a nice shoe for the price
post #22077 of 37396
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Originally Posted by sebastian mcfox View Post

@Murlsquirl
 how does the grey flannel Formosa hold up in mild west coast climates? When does it become uncomfortable?

I live outside of SF, purchased the Formosa grey flannel and returned it. It was too heavy for all but a month or so in the Bay Area (Dec. and Jan?). I doubt I would wear it on any day where the high was more than 50. But we all run a little warm or cool and I'd rather stay cooler than feel stuffy.

It is a beautiful suit and excellent cloth. If I lived in a colder climate it would be ideal for Fall/Winter.
post #22078 of 37396
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Originally Posted by GusW View Post

I live outside of SF, purchased the Formosa grey flannel and returned it. It was too heavy for all but a month or so in the Bay Area (Dec. and Jan?). I doubt I would wear it on any day where the high was more than 50. But we all run a little warm or cool and I'd rather stay cooler than feel stuffy.

It is a beautiful suit and excellent cloth. If I lived in a colder climate it would be ideal for Fall/Winter.

I thought I ran hot, but it definitely doesn't bother me in the 60s. Then again, I'm inside most of the day.
post #22079 of 37396

I wear flannel like that up to the mid to high 60s.   I would put it away when temperatures hit 70.   

 

And I thought I ran hot!

post #22080 of 37396

Thanks for the advice. I definitely run hot, but average  temps back home are around 70 in summer and 40 in winter, with very little humidity. So it could work...

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