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post #20866 of 37395
Thread Starter 

Neats:

 

I'm not sure I'd consider a gray a staple, but it would certainly be in my first 15 ties if I were going to be wearing navy suits. At the moment, though, this tie from Henry Carter is a ridiculously good deal. Excellent, excellent knot. So I'd keep that as an option.

 

http://www.henrycarter.com.au/product/grey-pin-dot-macclesfield-print/

(55 AUD)

 

A little splurgy, but this is my favorite neat at ET at the moment. I would say that you would want a burgundy/wine neat as opposed to a burgundy/wine solid. For whatever reason, I wear my neats in that family more than the solids, as do a number of other people. That being said, I do love burgundy as a solid as well, and would probably introduce that into my collection around 15-20 ties in.

 


65 GBP

http://www.exquisitetrimmings.com/products/Ties/Wine-Micro-Floral-Print-Wool-Challis-Tie.html

 

Something comparable and a bit cheaper in silk


55 GBP

http://www.exquisitetrimmings.com/products/Ties/Wine-Floral-Print-Handrolled-Macclesfield.html

 

Green is a wonderful color. That's really all I can say about it. You could go with something more olive or something more in the direction of forest green. I'm not sure I'd do both in the first 15 or so, at least in terms of neats.

I own the above tie (Click to show)

 

55GBP

http://www.exquisitetrimmings.com/products/Ties/Green-Geometric-Print-Handrolled-Macclesfield.html

 

Found a good one with a bit more olive from Henry Carter

55GBP

http://www.henrycarter.com.au/product/green-macclesfield-neat/

 

I don't actually own a legit blue pindot, but I get why it's a staple. Gray suit and navy pindot is about as classic as you get.

55GBP

http://www.exquisitetrimmings.com/products/Ties/Navy-and-White-Spot-Handrolled-Macclesfield.html

 

If you end up  not wanting that gray pindot, I'd go with a brown neat. ET has a few nice ones, but if you want something more interesting (while still being easily used), I'd suggest this guy from NMWA. Unfortunately, most stuff on NMWA is a little too pricey for large scale wardrobe building projects. And a lot of the stuff is a little out there (in a very, very good way). But it's a store to watch for sure.

 


75USD

http://www.nomanwalksalone.com/index.php/accessories/neckties/brown-self-tipped-wool-tie-pink-neat-print.html

 

Hrmmm....I like it. A lot. But that probably wouldn't be in my first 25. I'd get a more standard brown neat first. Though this other guy (same price) is nice and will work with any gray suits (as well as perhaps navy)

75USD

http://www.nomanwalksalone.com/index.php/accessories/neckties/purple-self-tipped-wool-tie-orange-neat-print.html

 

Solids

 

Navy solid is about as much a staple as a navy pindot. At first I was tempted to recommend something more in a dark blue, but if you end up with a suit a few shades lighter than navy (which hopefully you do), navy will probably work wonders with it. Silk navy is wonderful, but I figured I'd use my one wool recommendation on this. I also recommend Sam Hober. It's 13 USD to ship to you in the UK, but you need to get at least one tie from the man. It's sort of like a right of passage. It's bespoke and the customer service just makes you feel good inside.

 

75USD

https://www.samhober.com/macclesfield-challis-solid-wool-ties/macclesfield-challis-navy-solid-wool-tie-5.html

 

I'd definitely have two greens in my first eight. Hober's oxford weaves tie an amazing knot and have a very rich depth of color.


80USD

https://www.samhober.com/oxford-weave-silk-ties-en/oxford-silk-tie-clone-clone-en-2.html

 

And of course. You need a solid brown. And you need a solid grenadine.


55GBP

http://www.exquisitetrimmings.com/products/Ties/Handrolled-Fine-Weave-Grenadine-Ties.html


Edited by Claghorn - 3/21/15 at 7:01pm
post #20867 of 37395

I'm hoping someone comes up with a good brown neat suggestion. 

 

They're surprisingly few and far between.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

post #20868 of 37395
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Academic2 View Post
 

I'm hoping someone comes up with a good brown neat suggestion. 

 

They're surprisingly few and far between.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac


Are you US or UK? If so US, the group buy for Frui is still open (and they have 2-3 very nice brown neats)


 

My brown neats (Click to show)

 

Henry Carter

 

Howard Yount

 

Calabrese

 

Vanda

 

Henry Carter

 


Henry Carter

 

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Bigi

post #20869 of 37395
Thread Starter 

I'm not going to recommend any stripes I think. In the UK, it's a headache. I'd get all three solids, the blue pindot, the green neat, and the wool wine neat if I could just get six. That's a very, very solid starting six. I wouldn't pick the next two from the selections (though maybe the gray HC...it really does tie a wonderful knot). They'd probably be something either in browns or in burgundy.

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Edited by The Noodles - 3/22/15 at 11:34am
post #20871 of 37395

Good selection, except for the brown ties. Seeing as he'll be wearing black shoes 90% of the time, one brown is more than enough. I'd replace the other brown one for a grey tie.

post #20872 of 37395
I don't like how the pants fit. I will fix.
post #20873 of 37395

Thanks for taking the trouble to post those, Claghorn.  The Calabrese, Vanda, and the first Carter are quite close to what I’ve been looking for.  And I’ll check out the Frui thread as well.

 

Getting back to the question of recommending staple ties, I’ve come to wonder whether one can really recommend an optimum mix between solid and patterned ties without knowing whether they’ll be worn with solid or patterned jackets.

 

Most of my suits are solids, the exceptions being a couple of pinstripes, a couple of herringbones, and a Glen plaid (I’m not sure how to classify my birdseye, since it’s a texture that almost counts as a pattern).   While I’ve got the usual selection of solid ties, I find I wear them less often since I rely on the tie to provide pattern and texture when the jacket does not.   Even with the Glen plaid I’ve come to prefer a navy pin dot.

 

I’m not saying I never wear my solids, but I am saying that in the context of my particular suit wardrobe I’m hard-pressed to come up with an argument for thinking of them as ‘staples’. 

 

I’m starting to think that when it comes to ties ‘staple’ needs to be relativized to a particular wardrobe.  I wish it were otherwise.  (None of this is intended to suggest that discussion isn’t useful—quite the opposite, in fact).

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

post #20874 of 37395
Thanks for the pointer on the Henry Carter pin dot, Clags. Ordered.
post #20875 of 37395

@The Noodles your shirt sleeves are always too long.  You don't need to shorten them, you can just have your tailor move the button on the cuff to make the cuff a bit tighter so they won't fall so far.  A small thing that will change the look dramatically.   

post #20876 of 37395
Thread Starter 
Noodles used to have awkwardly fat wrists, but he lost weight.
post #20877 of 37395

Speaking of Henry Carter, I just checked and the current exchange rate is very favorable to Americans.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

post #20878 of 37395
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Speaking of Henry Carter, I just checked and the current exchange rate is very favorable to Americans.

Cheers,

Ac

Agreed. I've also made a value killing buying things in Canada because their stores still have some nice stuff on sale and the currency exchange is still very favorable.
post #20879 of 37395
I would also endorse the grey pin dot Henry carter. Jason is great to deal with, the exchange rate is very favorable to Americans, and it ties one of the best knots out of all my ties.
post #20880 of 37395
I actually pulled on the sleeves right before the photo shoot. Before I did it, it was hairlining out of the jacket.
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