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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post

That's a fair point. I often see students in out business school dressed in suits. Ill fitting suits, but the effort is there. I doubt students have much disposable income to spend on tailoring in any case.
This is truly very saddening to me. A good tailor is not hard to come by, and often not that expensive. I agree though, many of my fellow students have extremely ill fitting clothes. My school seems to be a touch better dressed though, a lot of the fraternities have contacts with a couple tailors around the town.
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A good tailor is not hard to come by, and often not that expensive.

 

That really depends on where you live.  It's a big negative for me.

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That's good advice, and I am building a casual wardrobe too. However, I do not have a typical high school situation to deal with. For example, between boys state, various award ceremonies, college interviews, and other events, I've probably had to wear a suit 10-15 times in the last year. A few weeks ago I was eating dinner with the governor of my state after serving as a page in the legislature (Dress shoes, dress slacks, tie every day). Do I wear a suit everyday? No, but I think that my needs warrant at least some investment into quality. Definitely not high end bespoke items, but I feel that I can justify investing in business appropriate wear. (I probably should have put this in my original post...) 

 

For instance, I have a trip to D.C. this April to accept some scholarship thing. In the list of required items they put suits. Not a suit. Suits plural. Luckily they are providing a tuxedo for the dinner because I can't afford any of that stuff right now. Money is an object for me, but I am smart with it. Tie bar ties, not Sam Hobers. Am I going to go buy a wardrobe of suits for this trip? No. But I did order a second suit to complement (read replace) my current one.

 

Where would I get the light grey or tan trousers recommended by archibald? What kind of fabric or material should it be cut from? I am discovering that my pants wardrobe is basically jeans and dress slacks. No middle ground.

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You want to know what I think the issue is? More than money (although that is always a consideration) the issue is upbringing. This isn't a "Parents aren't raising their kinds right" statement. What I mean to say is that people aren't growing up with fathers and mothers who dress well. I know I didn't. My grandfather, on the other hand, knew what was up. He knew because he watched his father, and his father taught him. When a young man doesn't have a sartorial example to follow, however, the path is much harder.

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I think the issue is less lack of a good tailor and more kids not knowing how a jacket should fit them in key places like the chest and shoulders.
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I think the issue is less lack of a good tailor and more kids not knowing how a jacket should fit them in key places like the chest and shoulders.

 

Exactly my point.

post #19942 of 37396
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I think the issue is less lack of a good tailor and more kids not knowing how a jacket should fit them in key places like the chest and shoulders.

^This is hard to learn, especially with nobody in real life to to tell you whats what. It's hard to learn how a 3D objects should fit from a 2D screen and a few words.

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^This is hard to learn, especially with nobody in real life to to tell you whats what. It's hard to learn how a 3D objects should fit from a 2D screen and a few words.

 

Why not just ask questions of a tailor? They are the "mechanics" who work under the hood of these suits. They can tell you how things work, what can be fixed, and what the limitations of your body mean to the garments you wear. You don't need to find a Saville Row tailor to tell you these things. Even just a decent one will be able to give you some info.

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Originally Posted by jcpeterson View Post
 

^This is hard to learn, especially with nobody in real life to to tell you whats what. It's hard to learn how a 3D objects should fit from a 2D screen and a few words.


True wisdom here indeed.  What's your size, jcpeterson?  I bet a few friends over in the Ragged Trousered Philanthropists thread would be happy to send some tailored clothing your way and, if you posted pics of it here on StyleForum, we could give direct guidance on fit.  Not as good as having someone on hand, but perhaps it's a decent second-best. 

 

As for trousers, two pair of grey wool trousers is the place to start.  We give that advice to everyone (the last guy to hear it wears Kiton and Rubinacci regularly, so you're in good company), and for good reason--grey wool goes with everything and looks smart in almost every setting you'll likely find yourself in.  You'll certainly outclass everyone who's still trying to wear ill-fitting cotton chinos with their blazers. 

 

Places to shop: Brooks Brothers when they have sales (check the BB thread here), Epaulet (www.epauletnyc.com) if you can afford it (those guys/gals are really helpful and a model for great customer service), Rota from NMWA (nomanwalksalone.com) if they're a graduation present from an aunt/uncle who appreciates fine tailoring. 

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I have yet to find a good tailor. Currently searching in the rural Midwest US.

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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post
 

 

Why not just ask questions of a tailor? They are the "mechanics" who work under the hood of these suits. They can tell you how things work, what can be fixed, and what the limitations of your body mean to the garments you wear. You don't need to find a Saville Row tailor to tell you these things. Even just a decent one will be able to give you some info.


Don't want to speak for jcpeterson, but I would never have had the confidence to do that while still in high school; I would have felt too out of place.  Probably true until after college, for that matter.  If he's got the self-possession to walk in and chat with a tailor, great, but I don't think I would have at his stage of life. 

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Don't want to speak for jcpeterson, but I would never have had the confidence to do that while still in high school; I would have felt too out of place.  Probably true until after college, for that matter.  If he's got the self-possession to walk in and chat with a tailor, great, but I don't think I would have at his stage of life. 

 

He's dining with governors. He's got this. :D

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Originally Posted by jcpeterson View Post
 

I have yet to find a good tailor. Currently searching in the rural Midwest US.

 

The next best thing to speaking to someone in person might be the tailors thread here on SF. Do a search, I'm not sure if it is updated much anymore, but there are pages and pages of great information on for directly front he horse's mouth.

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He's dining with governors. He's got this. :D


True, but so was I.  Politicians never overawed me much because they want to be liked, for the most part.  Technicians, on the other hand, know their stuff and can make you feel ignorant in a hurry even if they don't mean to do so. 

 

Then again, he sought us out, and I doubt I would have done so. 

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