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Didn't expect @PatrickR  to have so many flannel shirts.

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I have at least two shirts in each of the first five fabrics you linked.
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I have the first three...from Luxire. They are good.
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Didn't expect @PatrickR
  to have so many flannel shirts.

He's got a mean casual game.
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I would say 3 blues something like this.

This happens to be herringbone, but I like it, the rest should be solid, but about this color/shade/hue

Im not saying to get those exact shirts, but I think that is a very good guide to beginner solid blue, white, and striped shirts.

As Elio mentioned, also keep in mind collar shape and length.

 

 

+1 to navy pencil stripes on a white ground.  

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Is there a way to bookmark posts?   For example, in the a few months I would love to come back to these shirt recommendations.    

 

I'm loving the first # of a specific clothing items.   They are so helpful especially with the specific examples.   Thanks all for taking the time.  

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That's a damn lineup of shirts, Spandexter.

I'm still using plastic hangers. Been using them since I had a need for dress shirts and haven't seen the need to buy nice wooden hangers yet. Every time I think about it, I buy a tie instead.


Ikea sells inexpensive wooden hangers.
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+1 to navy pencil stripes on a white ground.  

I seem to remember this has been discussed before, but does anyone share my dislike for shirts where the stripes are thinner than those of the white ground? If so, is there a rational explanation?
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Trews- I like that they've got some great cloths e.g. Minnis, Dugdale, Hunt and Winterbotham and u can try something out without risking a whole suit commission.   Had them make up some trews in a lite grey Minnis (I find that swatches don't give me a great indication of the overall color), and decided that it's just too light for a suit but great for odd trews. 

Did you use measurements from an existing pair or did you send something in? Were you happy with the result? Have you had any made by Kent Wang?

Ive had suits done by Kent and have been happy with the results too.

 

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Did you use measurements from an existing pair or did you send something in? Were you happy with the result? Have you had any made by Kent Wang?

Send in! I'm telling you, I've done it both ways with Luxire and if you want the best results, send in your best fitting piece with requested alterations.


I quoted measurements, but Murls way is prob as good or better

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+1 to navy pencil stripes on a white ground.  

I seem to remember this has been discussed before, but does anyone share my dislike for shirts where the stripes are thinner than those of the white ground? If so, is there a rational explanation?

 

The claim has been advanced by some who share your view that the asymmetry involved means such stripes are not 'in good taste'; if I recall correctly this was in the 'Good Taste' thread somewhere.  I don't buy that claim, myself.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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The claim has been advanced by some who share your view that the asymmetry involved means such stripes are not 'in good taste'; if I recall correctly this was in the 'Good Taste' thread somewhere.  I don't buy that claim, myself.

Cheers,

Ac

Yeah,it was something along those lines, iirc. But then, the question remains: why are they not in good taste? Somehow I associate them with 'cheap', thought I know there are plenty of high end shirts with stripes like that too. Anyone who can shed some light on this?
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Elio I share your dislike too but honestly I don't see any obvious reason for it. Symmetry on its own isn't a good argument as everyone here is a FIH advocate precisely because the knot isn't symmetrical. Symmetry for shirts but not ties? 

 

Still, perhaps our current, group aesthetic gravitates towards symmetry or at least some constancy in repetition of any pattern: think of patterned ties. Is that why I dislike paisleys too? They can seem quite "asymmetric" (and loud). But cf. neats, dots, stripes which feel best when they are not irregular in pattern (IMO).

 

We should throw up some examples in the Lounge.

 

Maybe we are just conservative and post hoc justifying our tastes?

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Throw me in the other camp. My favorite striped shirts, the blue stripes are thinner than the white ground.
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Those who would argue that asymmetrical stripes are in bad taste simply because they’re asymmetrical would need to explain why symmetry matters some times but not other times.  The suit coat itself is asymmetrical in certain respects.

 

(1)  The left side overlaps the right side and has buttonholes while the right side had buttons.

(2)  Typically the jacket has a single breast pocket, on the left.

(3)  Use of a pocket square exaggerates the asymmetry.

 

The bottom line for me is that the symmetry argument underestimates the complexity of human cognition.  Yes, for lots of evolutionary reasons the brain is good at detecting visual symmetry (it correlates non-trivially with the presence of another organism).  But humans are also intelligent agents who often seek interest and novelty.  Asymmetry can be interesting—it attracts attention, especially when seen against a larger, more symmetrical field.

 

Let me be clear that I’m not offering an opinion on the tastefulness or otherwise of such stripes.  I’m simply saying that the argument from symmetry doesn’t work.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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