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I'm happy to be smacked upside the head of course.
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Grey flannel is THE quintessential odd trouser. Definitely more than okay.
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I wonder if there might not be two quite different considerations in play here.  TweedyProf seems concerned (justifiably in my book) with how cotton trousers look:

So I think I'm giving up largely on cotton casual pants except for denim.

 

Tweedy wool in the fall/winter, big cuffs with chunky boots or chukkas, and slouchy linen in the summer. I might tolerate some cotton in the spring, or better some wool/linen mixes, light weight. I have a pair in the latter which stays crisp, but has appropriate texture.

 

Cotton just can't seem to hold its shape, stretching etc. especially at the seat and at the knees. I'm not finding this so much of a problem with linen, which wrinkles in a way that makes me not care and should be worn a little baggier to help heat dissipate.

 

 

Archibaldleach says this, in reply:

Originally Posted by archibaldleach View Post

Moleskins and corduroy trousers are awesome. I can't imagine replacing them with tweed odd trousers. I'd prefer just wearing flannel all the time.

 

I agree, if we’re talking about comfort.  When I want to kick back and relax, it’s hard for me to think of trousers more comfortable than corduroy.  Part of it is physical (it just feels good) and part of it is psychological (its association with relaxing leisure pursuits). 

 

I do share the preference for wool over cotton for city/business trousers.  Even in summer I usually prefer a ‘tropical weight’ wool over cotton for such trousers, just because of how it looks and the ability of the fabric to hold a sharp crease.   The obvious exception would be if I was wearing a cotton jacket (although depending on the fabrics I suppose I still might go for wool). 

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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Thanks AC2, my wordiness gets the best of me. The main motivation is to opt for something that will hold its shape better or is best when it is wrinkly (e.g. linen). 

 

Something like this would have been nice:

 


as an alternative to gray flannel.

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Originally Posted by archibaldleach View Post

Moleskins and corduroy trousers are awesome. I can't imagine replacing them with tweed odd trousers. I'd prefer just wearing flannel all the time.

Yep.
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Originally Posted by archibaldleach View Post

Grey flannel is THE quintessential odd trouser. Definitely more than okay.

Yep.

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Drakes from Barneys arrived. Great mocha color, little more sheen than Id like, all in all, for the money I think it was a good pick up.


Oh, I wear my suits less than once a month lately. Only because Im lazy. Id happily wear them once a week.
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Originally Posted by TweedyProf View Post

So I think I'm giving up largely on cotton casual pants except for denim.

Tweedy wool in the fall/winter, big cuffs with chunky boots or chukkas, and slouchy linen in the summer. I might tolerate some cotton in the spring, or better some wool/linen mixes, light weight. I have a pair in the latter which stays crisp, but has appropriate texture.

Cotton just can't seem to hold its shape, stretching etc. especially at the seat and at the knees. I'm not finding this so much of a problem with linen, which wrinkles in a way that makes me not care and should be worn a little baggier to help heat dissipate.

Thoughts?

DO IT. Unless you're wearing a cotton jacket, cotton pants always look sub-optimal.
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Pic stitch.
At least SB with me.
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

DO IT. Unless you're wearing a cotton jacket, cotton pants always look sub-optimal.

Ummm... with a tweed jacket cotton is less than optimal? I'd say tweed can go either way, wool vs cotton
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You are not alone in thinking that. But you're all wrong. smile.gif

(I'm talking about chinos, twills, and the like. Corduroy, moleskin are in a different category IMO)
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I almost always hate cotton trou and a wool SC. Needs to be luxe cotton like the NMWA Roats and very country SC to work, imo, and even then its no sure thing.

Tweedy, Ill get pics tomorrow in natural light.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

I almost always hate cotton trou and a wool SC. Needs to be luxe cotton like the NMWA Roats and very country SC to work, imo, and even then its no sure thing.

Tweedy, Ill get pics tomorrow in natural light.

I plan on wearing my green twill Rotas with a couple SCs (like the pic). I think they are plush enough to work. I agree though, it doesn't work well very often. Greg posted a really good one not too long ago....too lazy to search for it.
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

You are not alone in thinking that. But you're all wrong. smile.gif

(I'm talking about chinos, twills, and the like. Corduroy, moleskin are in a different category IMO)

 

I thought cavalry twill was a traditional combination with tweed, or am I mistaken?

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

I almost always hate cotton trou and a wool SC. Needs to be luxe cotton like the NMWA Roats and very country SC to work, imo, and even then its no sure thing.

Tweedy, Ill get pics tomorrow in natural light.

Disagree with this. I think that moleskins and the like work fine with tweed. A pair of heavy moleskins give the cotton some added heft that lets it work with wool. If we're talking about your standard issue khakis with most wool sport coats, though, I'd agree in most cases. In summer I prefer linen to cotton in any case so I haven't given that issue (cotton trousers with a really lightweight wool SC) much thought.
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Originally Posted by Gwarg View Post

Where do you guys get your socks from? I've been reading around on the forum and Viccel looks good, but I'm after more patterns, e.g. houndstooth/herringbone/dotted etc.

I buy most of my OTC socks from Howard Yount. My favorite casual sock for Fall/Winter are the chunky rib merinos from Dore Dore. Soooo soft and comfy.

http://www.nomanwalksalone.com/index.php/accessories/socks/chunky-diagonal-rib-merino-socks-heather-grey.html

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Murl, that looks to work to me.

Archi, I wasnt talking about moleskin. But most moleskin I see is not wool SC material. Then again, I have no experince with dressy moleskin.
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