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http://www.amazon.com/The-Suit-Machiavellian-Approach-Style/dp/0060891866
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Flusser's books are also a must read - they give you a solid foundation of classic menswear. The books are by no means the "Bible", but if you know the basic rules, you can always play around with the concepts to create your own look.
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Originally Posted by TweedyProf View Post
 

You don't like the dub monks, SB? 

 

I'm more partial to single monks like these:

 

 

Though possibly with something in the toe box to break up that expanse (or one with the empty expanse, one with some broguing or a cap toe). It's the elegant swoop of the strap along parallel to the sole that I find very nice and hard to find in affordable versions.

You've read this, eh?

 

http://dieworkwear.com/post/13831024107/the-cutaway-single-monk

 

and, uh, the follow-up, which I happen to agree with?

 

http://dieworkwear.com/post/57713004143/reconsidering-the-single-monk

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Not everyone has to dress to SFs tastes. He can read all he wants, but if another style appeals to him more, shoving SF mantra down his throat is not beneficial.
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I think most new SF members come from the GQ/Details/Esquire/#menswear school of aesthetics

I know when I first started my journey, I was definitely from that camp. And I remember a young Stitch who wore Z. Couture loafers everyday. smile.gif

Time lurking of the forum will get rid of that. And reading classic menswear text. Manton's book is a good place to start. Iso, why don't you pick that one up?
We don't know the camp you belong to with no fit pic biggrin.gif

PS: I have not read a single style book in my life
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Iso, it occurrs to me that you favor the GQ/tumblr/#menswear look that is pretty much shunned here.

Hence, every time you post a pic of something you like, it gets lots of hate.

SF is not the be all end all of clothing. If you find that through the advice you get here you are more often rejecting what you like in you heart than embracing it, then you should probably do some thinking.

This may be the case, Iso, but it is also the case that this thread takes pride in concerning itself with execution rather than direction. If you want to look like that, most of us will do our damnedest to figure out how you can get there.

And just to be clear, the lack of response your fits have received have as much to do with the execution as the unSF direction you may have been trying to take them.

I suggest you go through your favorite instagrams/Pinterest boards/tumblrs and find ten outfits you'd like to be able to wear. Do the same with the SF WAYWRN composite thread. Post them here.
Edited by Claghorn - 11/23/14 at 11:49pm
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I don't have a gun check jacket yet but am very keenly looking for one in beige with a blue overcheck like the one owned by @Anden above.

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Does anyone see the use of light brown/tan shirts? I'm making a list of shirts to get when I go to my first tailor on Black Friday.

 

I have a brown linen shirt, seems okay, but I wouldn't say it's the most useful thing, even for casual outfits.

 

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

Iso, it occurrs to me that you favor the GQ/tumblr/#menswear look that is pretty much shunned here.

Hence, every time you post a pic of something you like, it gets lots of hate.

SF is not the be all end all of clothing. If you find that through the advice you get here you are more often rejecting what you like in you heart than embracing it, then you should probably do some thinking.
 
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This may be the case, Iso, but it is also the case that this thread takes pride in concerning itself with execution rather than direction. If you want to look like that, most of us will do our damnedest to figure out how you can get there.

And just to be clear, the lack of response your fits have received have as much to do with the execution as the unSF direction you may have been trying to take them.

I suggest you go through your favorite instagrams/Pinterest boards/tumblrs and find ten outfits you'd like to be able to wear. Do the same with the SF WAYWRN composite thread. Post them here.
 

Thanks.

 

I think by and large I prefer the SF aesthetic, but I don't like that preference to keep me from looking at other stuff that I like. I do actually think the majority of the whole GQ/#menswear stuff to be tacky but there are bits and piece I find appealing and I like to find out what about them I like, and if I can learn from it I don't see why not.

 

I do feel like some of the stuff I want to wear has no room on SF, like it's not quite streetwear (at least the pieces are the brands people there deal with, and it's not CM. Like I'd basically never seen fits posted with trenchcoats for instance, which I wear a lot of, it doesn't seem to make sense, not to mention everyone hates burberry. =P I also just don't take very good pictures or something, I can never pry my spouse from their studies to take proper pictures.

 

Unrelated, turns out they prefer me in casual trousers and a sweater than all my suits. =[

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I have a brown linen shirt, seems okay, but I wouldn't say it's the most useful thing, even for casual outfits.
Thanks.
I think by and large I prefer the SF aesthetic, but I don't like that preference to keep me from looking at other stuff that I like. I do actually think the majority of the whole GQ/#menswear stuff to be tacky but there are bits and piece I find appealing and I like to find out what about them I like, and if I can learn from it I don't see why not.
I do feel like some of the stuff I want to wear has no room on SF, like it's not quite streetwear (at least the pieces are the brands people there deal with, and it's not CM. Like I'd basically never seen fits posted with trenchcoats for instance, which I wear a lot of, it doesn't seem to make sense, not to mention everyone hates burberry. =P I also just don't take very good pictures or something, I can never pry my spouse from their studies to take proper pictures.
Unrelated, turns out they prefer me in casual trousers and a sweater than all my suits. =[

Its cool to like different types of things, but within each ensemble it needs to be one way or the other. Any look that is neither here nor there will never land well.
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That jacket seems surprisingly versitlie, @Anden. May I ask the maker?

 

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Cheers. It's a Raffaele Caruso Sartoria Parna.
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I'm planning on ordering a pair of trousers from Luxire. But before I do, I need to understand a couple of things. Mu usual measurements are thigh width ~12,5" and leg opening ~8" (not sure about knee width, but would assume ~10,5" +/- 0,5"). While I've enjoyed it for some time, I've come to realise that in order to achieve a cleaner and proportionally appealing look, I need to increase those measurements so that the trouser legs hang freely from the waist (or shoulders as I'm planning on using braces).

 

Obviously, this kind of look is hard to achieve if not going bespoke, so I'm not anticipating a fit on par with vox's

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I'm aware every individual has his/her optimal set of measurements. What I'm interested in regarding the pictures, and hope that you're able to help me with is the silhouette. Do the trousers taper from the knees or does the taper begin from the thighs down to the leg opening? Is there something else I should look for?

 

Another thing I enjoy is how the trousers rest on the shoes. Wearing size UK7,5-8 and sporting 8" leg opening requires a slightly shorter inseam in order for the trousers to not get caught at the shoes creating an unappealing break. On the backside the trousers A) don't reach down and just below the heel as in vox's pictures and B) tend to look short when walking. Would a 8,5" (+0,5") leg opening and slightly longer inseam allow for the trousers to hang as neat over the shoes as in vox's pictures or should I opt for an even larger leg opening? I don't want to swim in the trousers, but I don't want the leg opening to get caught on the top of the shoes either. In the pictures above, the trousers sit just above the second pair of lacing and covers the back of the shoes without getting caught on the heel. It's just perfect, imo of course.

 

I know this is dependent on other things (fit around the seat, balance etc). I'm also aware that it would be to much to ask from Luxire to nail a fit like the above pictures going by my measurements. What I'm interested in is achieving a silhouette similar to the above, not the fit. The latter is up to me and my measurements. Thanks.

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Another Swede here. Interested in the comments on this.

 

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Originally Posted by DonRaphael View Post
 

I'm planning on ordering a pair of trousers from Luxire. But before I do, I need to understand a couple of things. Mu usual measurements are thigh width ~12,5" and leg opening ~8" (not sure about knee width, but would assume ~10,5" +/- 0,5"). While I've enjoyed it for some time, I've come to realise that in order to achieve a cleaner and proportionally appealing look, I need to increase those measurements so that the trouser legs hang freely from the waist (or shoulders as I'm planning on using braces).

 

Obviously, this kind of look is hard to achieve if not going bespoke, so I'm not anticipating a fit on par with vox's

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I'm aware every individual has his/her optimal set of measurements. What I'm interested in regarding the pictures, and hope that you're able to help me with is the silhouette. Do the trousers taper from the knees or does the taper begin from the thighs down to the leg opening? Is there something else I should look for?

 

Another thing I enjoy is how the trousers rest on the shoes. Wearing size UK7,5-8 and sporting 8" leg opening requires a slightly shorter inseam in order for the trousers to not get caught at the shoes creating an unappealing break. On the backside the trousers A) don't reach down and just below the heel as in vox's pictures and B) tend to look short when walking. Would a 8,5" (+0,5") leg opening and slightly longer inseam allow for the trousers to hang as neat over the shoes as in vox's pictures or should I opt for an even larger leg opening? I don't want to swim in the trousers, but I don't want the leg opening to get caught on the top of the shoes either. In the pictures above, the trousers sit just above the second pair of lacing and covers the back of the shoes without getting caught on the heel. It's just perfect, imo of course.

 

I know this is dependent on other things (fit around the seat, balance etc). I'm also aware that it would be to much to ask from Luxire to nail a fit like the above pictures going by my measurements. What I'm interested in is achieving a silhouette similar to the above, not the fit. The latter is up to me and my measurements. Thanks.

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great questions and i have no idea...but i did notice how wrinkled his shirt is...he must be wearing the same shirt multiple days in a row. 

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