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post #15316 of 37428
Stupid work got in the way of responding for a while, and the thread has moved on, so this is more to say thanks for the feedback biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by EFV View Post

^Those shoes are much better, and casual enough for the other outfit.

Word. Will go with this type of more substantial shoe with future fits in the realm of this one. Need some actual chinos/brown pants of some sort too. Wondering
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Originally Posted by EFV 
I think the difference is:
A) Most people would consider that tie pretty bad, but they thumbed it because:
B) The context of how it was worn - with a navy suit and light blue gingham shirt
C) The photo quality/framing of the tie
D) It was worn in a "bold tie" FC.

I like bold ties, but the proportions, colours and balance have to be right. There is too much going on in this tie:
Very light colours, probably only suitable with really light coloured spring/summer ensembles. A very small, intense & asymmetric pattern, which makes the tie almost "crawl" when you look at it.

Then again, it may all be my personal taste.

It wouldn't be fun if there wasn't an element of personal taste in all of it. I do think it's better in the first fit for sure - and context is everything. But I appreciate the rundown of what made it tough on your lookers. I do find it's a difficult tie to actually choose to put on, and more than agree that it's a spring/summer affair by its very nature. Polarizing piece of cotton!
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Originally Posted by Isolation View Post

I think also because in the newer fit it contrasted way too much and stuck out in a bad way, whereas there's more harmony in the fit with the navy jacket.

Yep, makes sense to me. A lot more going on in the new one though I'm not sure exactly where the contrast was in relation to the first fit, since effectively they are both blue shirt and navy jacket. Interesting!
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

@jcmeyer
, I love that floral tie!

Confirmation bias fistbump! fistbump.gif
post #15317 of 37428

+1 to ubg. I love that first one kulata proposed. 

 

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Originally Posted by jcmeyer View Post

Confirmation bias fistbump! fistbump.gif
 

I have a reputation for liking sf unapproved florals I'd like to uphold!
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

like this one a lot
this one not as much...red ends up looking too vibrant for my taste
I'd put this one in between the first two. Red still a little vibrant, but against the darker brown background it looks better.

Leaning towards the first one too. Rust/copper that will go with a lot of fall colors...I think I already have a jacket that looks like the last one. Come to think of it
post #15319 of 37428

I'm at a conference this week and am particularly looking forward to hearing one of the guest speakers! :)

 

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post #15320 of 37428

He was in law school? Ugh, that explains their ads.

Would only be explained better if he was in b school. 

post #15321 of 37428
I have one navy SC and that is all I need.
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Originally Posted by kulata View Post


I have pretty much everything covered when it comes to odd jackets (Still need a green jacket though) but I am interested in specific patterns one would consider for fall. People planning purchases or commissions start off with Navy jackets preferably hopsack or fresco but for Tweeds, what are the 3 most versatile patterns?

 

I agree with ArchibaldLeach and others that it's donegal, herringbone, and some kind of check, but I think the gap between the first two options and the third is substantial.  As in, I would get two each of donegal and herringbone in some combination of dark brown, rust, green, and blue before I would get a tweed check. 

 

For me, flannel looks so much better in checked patterns than tweed, whether it's a shepherd's check like the beautiful fall melange you wore recently, a guncheck like NMWA and others are selling from Eidos, or a larger windowpane.

 

On staples generally, the reason we overload on them is because with staples, minute differences matter most.  I'll never have two grey PoW check SCs in my wardrobe at the same time because they aren't versatile enough for me to make fine distinctions between them.  If I like one better than the other, one's got to go.  Yet I have five solid navy jackets and two patterned navy/blue jackets, and will likely add two more in the not-so-distant future, because to me there's a world of difference between a herringbone navy flannel with flap pockets and a super 120s navy blazer with patch in terms of how they affect a look.  That doesn't even account for differences in quality, which shine through loudest when variables are kept to a minimum. 

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

I have one navy SC and that is all I need.


Your ability to keep your wardrobe manageable does you a great deal of credit in my book and speaks to the value of versatility, but how many navy or blue suits do you own and wear regularly?  For those who don't play the suit game regularly, one navy ain't gonna cut it. 

 

Also, you don't count your Eidos guncheck as a navy?

post #15324 of 37428
jcmeyer, I don't find the tie as repellant as others seem to. I think it would be lovely in a spring/summer combination (including a blue linen or fresco suit). It's horrible with the recent combo, though.
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

jcmeyer, I don't find the tie as repellant as others seem to. I think it would be lovely in a spring/summer combination (including a blue linen or fresco suit). It's horrible with the recent combo, though.

You're horrible with the recent combo!

nod[1].gif Appreciate the helps.
post #15326 of 37428
Okay, perhaps that was a bit forcefully stated. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by heldentenor View Post

Your ability to keep your wardrobe manageable does you a great deal of credit in my book and speaks to the value of versatility, but how many navy or blue suits do you own and wear regularly?  For those who don't play the suit game regularly, one navy ain't gonna cut it. 
Also, you don't count your Eidos guncheck as a navy?

Thanks for the compliment, much appreciated.

While I am a known koppaholic, with little to no self restraint, I also keep a pretty tight wardrobe, and I sell a lot. For three reasons.

1. Im not in a financial position to have everything I want.

2. It bothers me to have things that I wear with great infrequency, it feels wasteful. That is partially related to the above.

3. I have limited closet and dresser space.

That being said, my wardrobe consists of the following.

5 suits.

  • Solid navy birdseye - SB
  • Gray PoW - SB
  • Light blue - SB
  • Chocolate brown - DB
  • Gray donegal-ish - DB (in the works)


6 SC's (all SB)

  • Solid navy birdseye (not optimal and probably out at some point)
  • Solid navy perfect SC (in the works)
  • Solid brown (semi-optimal will probably head out next year if I have a better one made up)
  • Solid gray/brown/purple
  • Navy/light blue with orange overcheck gunclub
  • Gray/blue gunclub


Maybe 10 pairs of pants, grays, tans, browns, a navy and a green.

About a dozen pairs of shoes.

10 coats (truly excessive but that is my real weak spot)

But I have a lot of shirts and ties, probably 50 of each, and about 10 PSs

I feel that due to the fact that most of my suits/SCs/pants are solid and pretty much staples, together with the larger sized shirt and tie collection, I can create a lot of different looks. I also have a fair amount of sweaters, casual pants, and SWD ish.

With all that in play, I really never get the feeling that I am wearing the same thing over and over again. More often I actually feel like I have too much.

I have no illusions that for a normal person I have a small wardrobe, but I think for an SFer, I keep it pretty tight. Im in a spot where I dont really feel I need to add anything, and the only thing I think I really want to add is a flannel navy wide chalk stripe peak lapeled suit. Not for necessity but because I want to indulge in one.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to share that. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

2. It bothers me to have things that I wear with great infrequency, it feels wasteful. That is partially related to the above.

QFT. teacha.gif
post #15329 of 37428
I sympathize with your second point (being bothered by having stuff that you don't wear often), @in stitches. Where do you draw the line for too infrequent use? Just curious.
post #15330 of 37428
I don't have a number, it's really just more of a feeling of non useage or if I feel Im only wearing it to justify having it or if I feel the use is limited and the piece is not amazing enough to justify the limited use.
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