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You guys missed @unbelragazzo 's point. 

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Originally Posted by Coxsackie View Post

The brand is improving now, with a lot of money being thrown at innovative (but ultimately pointless) new complications like belt drives and magnetically-regulated balance assemblies.

This is what I was responding to. I know virtually nothing about watches and have nothing invested in Tag, but I don't know why you would dismiss these complications as pointless when the complication of going from quartz to mechanical is no less pointless (it seems to me).
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Yes to all of that. My point is not that they're stupid to buy, just that it's kind of silly to buy a $10k watch because it keeps time well or tells you what phase the moon is in or whatever. If that information itself is what you really care about, much cheaper ways to acquire it.

 

Not really.  The magic of precision timekeeping is part of the interest watch enthusiasts have for timepieces.  Otherwise, it would be like jewelry to them.  What is fascinating about watches is that it's a bunch of gears powered by a wound spring (a little like a wind-up toy) that can also keep accurate time up to 1 or 2 seconds a day - that's 0.002% accuracy!   There's something really compelling about a mechanical machine that is capable of doing that - and the people that are making it possible.   I don't think any watch enthusiast can completely ignore the performance of the movement inside the watch - unless it's some sort of really old vintage watch with a movement that simply cannot be regulated well but that the owner wants to keep authentic.

 

The complications showing moon phases or recognize leap years, etc... are just more of that mechanical magic, which will obviously will never be as accurate as Google, but which is very impressive, knowing that it is still simply powered by a spring and some gears.

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^ Exactly.

If you read any watch pr0n thread you'll see people very eager to see the "guts" of the watch.
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Originally Posted by TM79 View Post

^ Exactly.

If you read any watch pr0n thread you'll see people very eager to see the "guts" of the watch.

Mmmm...

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

Only as pointless as hand-welted shoes or canvassed suits.  It's a matter of love for the small differences and workmanship that most people would never notice.  Watches are art and expression; old-fashioned engineering handiwork and aesthetic meaning unified into a very male kind of nerdiness.  They ceased to be about function since we started carrying around self-synchronising mobile telephones.

 

Sure, my $30 Sekonda keeps better time than my mechanical watches.  But my aspiration and desire is always for more and better of the latter.

 

Noodles, your Tag is unloved by watch freaks, for the reasons Cox has explained, but that's all relative. The main objection would be that a new one is far too expensive compared to what it is (next to, e.g., an inherently similar piece from, say, Sinn or Stowa or Tissot or Hamilton).  But you've already got it and it's also perfectly decent in itself - a solid chronograph on a cool bracelet.  I'd certainly wear it.  Pay for the service.  Then get a more grown up dress watch once your credit card has cleared from those Formosa suits.

Yes, I would settle on an IWC or a Zenith next time, if there is a next time. It's all good, I got that Tag when it was cheap ($2,000~). I wouldn't pay what they are charging right now. I'd rather get an Omega. At any rate, I am in need of a dress watch. Maybe I will get one when I am old. 

 

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And clip-on ties have the most consistent knots

Oh no you didn't!

 

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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Yes to all of that. My point is not that they're stupid to buy, just that it's kind of silly to buy a $10k watch because it keeps time well or tells you what phase the moon is in or whatever. If that information itself is what you really care about, much cheaper ways to acquire it.

Hence my decision to never again purchase an expensive watch. It's just jewelry to me. (I am not a watch freak). 

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If this jacket on the left was made in brown wool, is the style winter enough? Or is that strictly summer styling?

 

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others would know better but darker brown would make it wintery. but why ask when you live in Arizona?

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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post
 

Yes, I would settle on an IWC or a Zenith next time, if there is a next time. It's all good, I got that Tag when it was cheap ($2,000~). I wouldn't pay what they are charging right now. I'd rather get an Omega. At any rate, I am in need of a dress watch. Maybe I will get one when I am old. 

 

Oh no you didn't!

 

Hence my decision to never again purchase an expensive watch. It's just jewelry to me. (I am not a watch freak). 

 

IWC makes some lovely watches, but again, is in bad odour with the aficionados of late - a lot of expensive branding, a lot of special editions, not much new substance to justify the prices.  And Omega the same but double. Zenith doesn't have much that excites me, personally, and isn't going to turn heads, but it's proper if there's one you love.  That said, I wear an Omega as my dress watch most work days, and would love an IWC Portuguese Chrono or a Zenith El Primero Striking Tenths.

 

Anyway, this place is full of watch nuts alongside whom my advice is a mere fart in the gale: go on, give us a budget and some parameters and preferences - you will not be short of magnificent suggestions.

 

("I am not a watch freak" is a near-verbatim quote of what I said two years ago.  Give it time.  It is indeed jewellery for men, and eventually, you will be fucked.  Plus, you're Asian.  "Eventually" might not be that long.)

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others would know better but darker brown would make it wintery. but why ask when you live in Arizona?

I'd like one jacket. It's getting cold in the mornings/evenings. I've got a leather one for casual wear, I want something in between. Other than that, I can get some cardigans and V-neck sweaters to wear. But one nice jacket would be 'fun'.

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I think Christopher Ward makes a nice entry level automatic watch - I also happen to like a fairly clean watch face and no bells or whistles.

http://www.christopherward.com/men/dress.html
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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post
 

others would know better but darker brown would make it wintery. but why ask when you live in Arizona?

 

I don't believe in colour coding seasons.  My dark brown linen jacket is perfect summer wear with white chinos.

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Maybe @gdl203 can find some good watchmakers and offer them on NMWA! 

 

@mimo

I do not know how them people on watch porn can afford all them expensive watches. It's just crazy~ 

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I don't believe in colour coding seasons.  My dark brown linen jacket is perfect summer wear with white chinos.

Yeah - I used to color code by season as well. It's more about fabrics and fabric weights, though.
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Originally Posted by mrjester View Post

I'd like one jacket. It's getting cold in the mornings/evenings. I've got a leather one for casual wear, I want something in between. Other than that, I can get some cardigans and V-neck sweaters to wear. But one nice jacket would be 'fun'.

Why not get it in a wool/silk/linen, butterfly lined? Usually has a lovely texture, and you'll be able to step outside without instantly breaking into a sweat.
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