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post #12511 of 37396
I think the learning curve is the same, whether thrifting or buying retail. Unless they grow up in suit and tie, it takes a while for most to find solid footing. Ultimately, what the best do is learn to resist impulse purchases or simple acquisitiveness. Neither is unique to thrifting. I started off thrifting, and some of my favorite pieces (which have been popular here FWIW) were thrifted. I did get more selective over time, though, and eventually tired of the low strike rate. Now, I'm still shopping second-hand, paying a bit more (still typically 85% or more off retail) but in consignment shops. I don't always find what I'm looking for, but I don't always find what I'm looking for when I'm considering a retail purchase. I wouldn't presume to put myself out there as one of the leading lights here in WAYWRN, but of all of the suits and jackets I've worn that have been well received, only one of them was a retail purchase.

The key distinction is whether someone is into thrifting or into finding great clothes for little money. They are most definitely not the same thing.
post #12512 of 37396
Yeah, I hate thrifting, but there's this one second hand store in London that's great. It only sells suits and jackets, and has a whole rack full of navy suits, another one full of grey suits, etc. Lots of big names, RLPL, Caruso, Savile Row, TF, etc. I think the average suit there is about £200, but most of them are in great shape. Very high hit rate if you're looking for something specific.
post #12513 of 37396
I'd thrift if I had them time and energy to do so. I've seen some amazing thrift finds by some of the guys on SF. It's environmentally and economically sound, if you don't count alternative costs due to time spent (but if it's also a hobby I guess it's time well spent).

I do love a good bargain though, which means I sometimes have to wait a while for the right piece to come along, but since I'm building a long time wardrobe I'm in no hurry. I'm neither poor nor wealthy, but I have to make priorities with my money, and right now I choose to spend the bulk of my income on other things than clothes (like reinvesting in my businesses, doing fun stuff with my better half and my friends et c).

I wouldn't say there's a right or wrong way going about this, it mainly comes down to occupation, spending power, willingness to spend, interest et c.
post #12514 of 37396
Which one is that? Name and address for future reference please!
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Yeah, I hate thrifting, but there's this one second hand store in London that's great. It only sells suits and jackets...
post #12515 of 37396
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Which one is that? Name and address for future reference please!

No idea, I stumbled upon it a year ago, but haven't been there since. Somewhere north of Oxford Circus.
post #12516 of 37396

Good discussion on thrifting. I'm definetly in the thrifting category InStiches outlined. I e-thrift, and buy a lot of bargains. Having said that, after one or two purchases when my interest in clothing was first piqued, I have settled down. I don't have a suit at the moment as it is too difficult for me to find one that fits (that's cheap) as I have a pretty big drop (tiny waist, larger shoulders) and I'm also not a fan of how RTW trousers fit, for the most part.

 

I do have some pretty good basic sports coats though (navy, grey etc.) , and only own white/blue shirts and solid knit ties. Perhaps there is a happy medium?  Especially as a younger guy, with limited means. I have probably spent about $1000 on 6 SC's, all relatively reputable brands, mostly new with tags of the bay. I might have been able to get one ok suit for this, that fit in regards to both jacket and trousers. I have no need to own a suit however, and I couldn't get away with wearing the same suit everyday.

post #12517 of 37396
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This would make an intriguing two-part Friday Challenge.  First, people post fits with one thrifted item in the ensemble.  Then, once all submissions are gathered, people see if they can identify the thrifted component.  Two winners: best fit and most accurate guesses. 

My bet, though, is that among our better dressed members, no one could reliably pick out the thrifted item.  Selected thrifting around solid staples is the best of both worlds, IMHO: good fits plus the satisfaction of serendipity. 

Segue--Stitchy, what's your take on thrift shoppers vs. sale shoppers?  Is that a meaningful distinction for you, or does it usually boil down to the same tradeoff of quality/versatility/price? 

Good point. Buying because something is on sale rather than buying something that you really need or want is a common dilemma I think. I know I have been guilty of it in the past, and still occasionally drift in that direction, but for the most part I subscribe to stitchie's formula of buying really good, versatile stuff, albeit in lower volume. So I think there there is little distinction in buying deep discounted retail vs thrifting.
post #12518 of 37396
@Monkeyface so I go off the grid while in London only to come back and find your post. Ughhhhhhhh
post #12519 of 37396
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Good point. Buying because something is on sale rather than buying something that you really need or want is a common dilemma I think. I know I have been guilty of it in the past, and still occasionally drift in that direction, but for the most part I subscribe to stitchie's formula of buying really good, versatile stuff, albeit in lower volume. So I think there there is little distinction in buying deep discounted retail vs thrifting.

 

I think that the dilemma is far worse for thrifting since things are often quite cheap. I definitely made a lot of mistakes along the lines of "Oh yeah, this is a little too big, but it's so cheap!" etc.


In time, I've gotten over that. Being on SF has helped make me super picky about what I do pick up. Having worked with an alterations tailor for a bunch of time over the last year, I've also become reasonably good at knowing what might be worth picking up and what's best left behind even if it's cool. 

post #12520 of 37396
It might be good to make a list of things you need and only buy those, no matter how cheap or cool other stuff is. For example, I've had a black/white PoW tie on my list for 3 months now, but haven't found a good deal yet. I haven't bought any other ties in the meantime, even though I saw some cool ones on sale. I might just end up buying one at retail, but at least I'm sticking to the list. That's how you end up with a well rounded wardrobe that works with each other, instead of a bunch of individual pieces.
post #12521 of 37396
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Great post Mr. Stitches...
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@in stitches, that was a fantastic post.

Thanks, gents.
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Segue--Stitchy, what's your take on thrift shoppers vs. sale shoppers?  Is that a meaningful distinction for you, or does it usually boil down to the same tradeoff of quality/versatility/price? 

Same thing imo. If you buying sale items because they are on sale, you are headed down the same rabbit hole. The exception to these things is someone who already has a solid wardrobe, and is now just adding for fun. Thats cool.
post #12522 of 37396
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Same thing imo. If you buying sale items because they are on sale, you are headed down the same rabbit hole. The exception to these things is someone who already has a solid wardrobe, and is now just adding for fun. Thats cool.

I was going to object until I read the exception. In which case, I still sort of disagree. I mean, there are ties out there that I wouldn't pay 150 dollars for, but if they go on sale for 75, I'm damn well picking them up. Because they are worth 75 dollars to me. If I recall, Stitchy says that money doesn't enter into the equation for him. If he wants it, he gets it. 150 dollars or not. But that's because he's crazy for kopping. And this whole thing has been a segue for this awesome Hitchcock gif I found.

 

post #12523 of 37396
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It might be good to make a list of things you need and only buy those, no matter how cheap or cool other stuff is. For example, I've had a black/white PoW tie on my list for 3 months now, but haven't found a good deal yet. I haven't bought any other ties in the meantime, even though I saw some cool ones on sale. I might just end up buying one at retail, but at least I'm sticking to the list. That's how you end up with a well rounded wardrobe that works with each other, instead of a bunch of individual pieces.

 

I usually have a list like that but definitely make exceptions.

I'd been looking for jackets with peak lapels and ended up finding 3 in my size: navy, brown, and red. Of those, I left the red at first but went back for it because it was awesome. It's certainly not a staple, but when I want to get noticed I wear it. I wore it to a conference and then out on the town on saturday and it was a huge hit. 

post #12524 of 37396

Buy what fits you and not the things you want to fit into. 

 

RTC, I think you're spending too much money on tailoring. :nest:

post #12525 of 37396
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I wore it to a conference and then out on the town on saturday and it was a huge hit. 

You wore this to a business (medical/anethesia?) conference?
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