Thanks for reviving this. It's an important issue, which deserves more discussion than it's gotten. I agree with you that Manton overgeneralized: red (i.e., crimson, which is the hue of most of the ties you posted) ties can look good IF they're in heavily textured fabrics with little sheen--slubby shantungs, slubby linens, spongy wools and cashmeres. I think a crimson grenadine is so shiny that it's in dangerous territory, but it can work in a Garza grossa. Something like Patrick's in post 122 above, or these socks:
The Charles Hill grenadine fina that was posted by AlanC on p. 3 of this thread
is pushing it for me. For me, a tie should be an accent--it shouldn't dominate an ensemble. That one's in danger of dominating any ensemble, because of the sheen of the fabric combined with the saturation and intensity of the crimson hue. But I suppose there are some contexts in which it could work.
As for repp weave silks in crimson, I just can't get behind them, no matter what kind of pattern, print, or contrast colors they bear. I think repp silk crimsons dominate an ensemble because they add the smoothness of a repp to the sheen, saturation, and intensity mentioned above. (That Kent Wang double track stripe might work on a bright summer's day, but it's getting into cherry territory, which isn't really crimson and is not too far from maroon. In any case, I'd like the KW better if it were a slubby shantung or linen for summer wear.)
As for scarlet and similar hues in the light red range, which the blue polka dot you posted last is headed toward...I think Manton was about right about those. I have trouble envisioning any fabric in which a scarlet tie could look good. I suppose some washed-out scarlets in linen might work, and maybe also some spongy and soft cashmeres or wools like Patrick's solid wool in 122 on the top right.Edited by Testudo_Aubreii - 7/26/16 at 6:07pm