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post #106 of 140

NJr, less of this would be good: :slapfight:

 

But we're in agreement on age. Many younger people focus on the affectations they see on TV that don't suit their age and to top it off forget about cut, which makes the whole ensemble look even more faddish and poorly thought-out. I find myself only wearing handkerchiefs casually; in the office, at my age... a little cringey (clarification: I work in a more traditional office, marketeers can turn up in fuchsia onesies without the bat of an eyelid I'm told).

 

Flamingos like to stand on one leg in the water - though at times on land as well - because it reduces the surface area of their body that is in contact with water and reduces the rate at which they lose body heat, water being a very effective conductor relative to air or earth.

 

Next week we explore why zebras have black and white stripes when they live on the savannah and not a chess board.

 

I have a question about handkerchiefs ("pocket squares" - question within a question: is there a difference?): you get those ones in a heavier silk and fold more stiffly... does anyone think those are a bit naff/cheap looking or do you think there are circumstances when they're a better choice than a finer silk?

post #107 of 140

I'm glad I could help with some uncertainties :)

 

Chopper88 answered Naive Jr's question regarding the napkin for me.

Basically some cheap fashion menswear brands sell skinny, shiny suits with thin lapels etc. along with some form of cheap pocket square and the whole ensemble just looks off… like H&M shirts with a tiny small collar that looks horrible with a tie because the collar won't cover it properly. Then the tissue thin piece of fabric with black contrast machine stitched edges that was given to you as a freebie with the jacket and is somehow supposed to resemble a pocket square.

I'm not saying a pocket square can't be cotton. But whatever you chose, make sure it looks somewhat elegant and as if you deliberately chose it rather than looking like one of those guys who leaves the brand tag stitched onto his left sleeve. That makes me cringe:crazy:

 

 

When you iron your pocket squares, be sure not to iron the hand rolled edges. It beats the point.

Silk pocket squares will very rarely require ironing, as they don't usually crease. I used to keep them folded and stacked which eventually started to crease them since I've acquired quite a few over time. Recently I have switched to a new method of storing them, which prevents this (hanging them up).

Cotton and linen hankies will require occasional ironing, though since I usually fold them in the exact same manner the folding creases are a non issue as long as the exposed part looks nice and crisp IMO.

 

I like size38R's Marvel PS. I'm also a big fan of pocket squares with images printed on them, like the ones Kent Wang makes. I find them to be extremely versatile due to the asymmetrical nature of the pattern and colours.

 

Naive Jr., all you really have to do is find out if all or most of your jackets have more or less the same chest pocket size (patch pockets usually will be smaller through the nature of their design). This is something you have to do yourself, no one can help you over the internet. If they are all similar, wear a jacket, go to some haberdasher and try a few pocket squares to see if the small ones are of sufficient size for you. Plenty of places sell pocket squares, so this should not be an issue. Then perhaps buy one you like that fits with your wardrobe and try it out with a few different jackets…. then buy more:slayer:

post #108 of 140
Dear daDudeson,

Thanks for your very practical advice. I am looking for my measuring tape or ruler to determine if my hunch all my RTW N&L 38S jacket pockets, none patched, share the same size is the case. How true you can't measure my pockets over Internet, on the other hand I must do all my shopping (except for Swiss underwear) online because Central European soul preferences are centered in their "Ich", which in their germination everyone knows suffered from "Finsternis" the opposite to Licht (light). (hell=bright, dunkel=dark) If Nazis selfdestruct culture, healing needs time. Why is the favorite "Farbe" here black? Because the wearers are initiated in Ancient Mysteries? Give to Caesar Kaiser Czar his, the Gods theirs.

PS: You mention your new storage principle - do you use coat hangers or how?.
Edited by Naive, Jr. - 1/9/14 at 5:35pm
post #109 of 140
Late to the party, but here's my $0.02 :
  • Yes, I always wear a pocket square (unless it just doesn't feel right in a certain situation - and you'll know when that situation arises because it obviously just won't feel right)
  • I'll wear with a suit and in any situation whereby I have a sport coat on - tie optional
  • At first I was super self conscious about wearing a pocket square but eventually it flipped and now I'm super self conscious if I don't!
  • I have collected a ton of squares over that past few years - silks, cottons, linen, chambray, gingham, etc. - in various degrees of sheen, brightness, patterns and colours..
  • I either just fold it and stuff it in my pocket or employ the simple "I don't give a f@ck" poof method
  • I tend to try 3-4 different squares each time to see which one happens to "lock in" best with whatever I'm wearing.

Pocket squares should be fun (and only a bit serious sometimes).

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post #110 of 140
Dear rcoreytaylor,

You're late because otherwise your firework isn't so explosive

I've been waiting for your sense of two -
what is the better choice and why not the other:

two-ply silk yarn 350 threads per inch
or
14 momme 100% silk twill

printed
or
woven

30cm x 30cm
or
40cm x 40cm

?
post #111 of 140
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Originally Posted by PinkestFlamingo View Post

NJr, less of this would be good: smack.gif

But we're in agreement on age. Many younger people focus on the affectations they see on TV.

Next week we explore why zebras have black and white stripes when they live on the savannah and not a chess board.

I have a question about handkerchiefs ("pocket squares" - question within a question: is there a difference?): you get those ones in a heavier silk and fold more stiffly... does anyone think those are a bit naff/cheap looking or do you think there are circumstances when they're a better choice than a finer silk?

1. The only uniform I ever wore was Cub Scout.
2. TV retards phonetic and phantasy development in young children
3. Zebra stripes repel certain insects

I appreciate your questions abd thoughts about pocket squares, but cannot answer them because I have not studied the history of clothing or cloth, so I second them in hope of learning, too.
Edited by Naive, Jr. - 1/9/14 at 6:50pm
post #112 of 140
Quote:
Originally Posted by Naive, Jr. View Post

Dear rcoreytaylor,

You're late because otherwise your firework isn't so explosive

I've been waiting for your sense of two -
what is the better choice and why not the other:

two-ply silk yarn 350 threads per inch
or
14 momme 100% silk twill

printed
or
woven

30cm x 30cm
or
40cm x 40cm

?


I feel that the type of material is secondary to overall look of the square. Remember that the square is a bit of "icing on the cake" - it's not the whole cake - therefore it adds a bit of flair (overstated or understated) but shouldn't be too over-thought. I suggest trying a variety of materials, colours, patterns, etc. to get a feel for what is best for you. Realistically a pocket square could be made out of any scrap of fabric, so you needn't spend ridiculous sums of $ on high-end squares. I started my collection with some basic white silk and then added more in solid colours (blues, etc.). I have come to really appreciate the adaptability of the paisley square, having initially started with a more subdued blue-based pattern and now with a number in various base colours (ancient madder greens and browns are a great choice). I guess what I'm trying to say is; simply collect a few squares that you like on their own and then try to integrate them into whatever you are wearing.

As for sizing, I have found that there really isn't one standard size - my squares are all over the map size-wise. I do find that some of the larger ones tend to bulk up my pocket too much, which looks and feels awkward.Therefore I tend to favour squares with a little less material (but not so little as they tend to disappear into the pocket - which tends to happen with smaller silk squares).

Cheers!
Edited by rcoreytaylor - 1/9/14 at 6:12pm
post #113 of 140
I'll see if I can summarize a few points from my perspective and experience.

- Sometimes I like the look of no pocket square when I want a more minimalistic overall look or when wearing a very expressive scarf.
-You don't need a lot of them. A few in the right colors and patterns will serve you very well.
-I recommend a white linen, a couple of 100% silk and a couple in a mix of wool/silk (wool/silk for fall/winter). You might want a cotton one for spring/summer. All look best with hand rolled and hand sewn edges.
-For size it depends entirely on the weight of the fabric. I have 18" ones that have less bulk than 12" ones so there is no rule.
-When I buy a square I open it up, grab the middle, give it a twist and jam it into my chest pocket. If too bulky I don't buy it.
-For patterns aside from your all white linen, get one with polka dots, one with a medium sized paisley pattern and then (my favorite) very large sweeping paisley. I avoid small paisleys because they too often are similar in size to patterns on many ties.
-For color basics get solid white linen, a blue and white pattern, a brick or paprika colored pattern, purple pattern, brown and deep blue or deep gold and navy is nice as well. Of course the actual shade should compliment the color of your favorite jackets and accessories. I love a bright, multiple colored plaid cotton for summer.
- I avoid pocket squares with obvious graphic images and icons. They are fun for a party or travel, but not when trying to make a more elegant or professional appearance.
- Cheap silk fabrics look cheap and often have odd shades of color. Avoid these.
- For cotton or linen pocket squares the finest are made by Simonnot-Godard. Different retailers sell different sizes. Their linen is fairly bulky so go for the smaller size if in doubt.
-I think the most creative and expressive silk or silk/wool pocket squares are made by Etro. Many are rather wild combinations of patterns and colors. But when jammed into your pocket, they take on a whole different look. Certainly not for everyone but they are an ideal way to add something extra to a solid colored or traditional patterned jacket.
post #114 of 140
Dear rcoreytaylor,

In which sense are paisley patterns "adaptible" - do you mean such a pattern harmonizes to many or any outfit? If you've experienced that "smaller" squares sink, couldn't you provide measurements of these unsuitable silk pocket squares (you wrote they were all of silk, correct?)?

Thanks!

Dear pocketsquareguy,

anyone who calls you a fanatic is blind to your earnesty in the matter, but why do you like white as pocket square? I don't qualify cloth because I'm only at the elementary school class (linen sounds hygienic, but as jacket cloth creases require expensive steaming).

You don't quantify weight of the cloth, so size remains vague, too. (Bulk seems not identical with weight, but has weight?)

Thanks, too!


PS: You contradict each other in regard to importance of cloth quality
post #115 of 140
Why do I like white as a pocket square? Because of the way it looks with my clothing.

Just look at photos, what pocket squares almost always look the best. A white linen one is on that short list.
post #116 of 140
Dear pocketsquareguy,

I just lost the long private message I wrote you because this tiny mobile phone has a tiny keyboard and tiny screen and one wrong move and I end up in Timbuktoo. So I couldn't find that list where your most favorite pocket square of white linen appears and I want to say thanks to you and the other posters who take the trouble to share fruits of their rich experience by posting here. PinkestFlamingo advised me I should be concise, and this is indeed my ideal.
post #117 of 140
I don't have a list of white pocket square photos. But good examples of guys wearing them are all over the internet. Here are a few:













While these are all more formal, don't let that stop you from wearing a white PS with something more casual. My favorite for spring is well worn jeans, OCBD shirt, a blue blazer with a white linen pocket square and dusty suede bucks.
post #118 of 140
Thank you. I understood you mentioned one white linen pocket square on a list of photos of pocket squares. The guy at the top is a contemporary, but he doesn't seem creative in his own, he has lots of money, also not his own, but inherited. ERROR it is not that Agnelli with Scandinavian name, but Schumacher's former race car employer, right? He dresses like a Swiss banker or funeral director and looks somehow in anguish amidst his luxury life, poor fellow! others are fron other times. So what - if you like the white linen, that's the indicidual moment that counts.
Edited by Naive, Jr. - 1/10/14 at 6:21pm
post #119 of 140

The only problem I find with a white pocket square is that they are easy to notice. I have recently gone to more quiet ones that blend with my jacket better as it tends to not freak out people who aren't keen on them (I work in high tech which is very conservatively casual). I have some white ones but I find I wear them less and less.

post #120 of 140
AFC - Thats cool. Wear it in a way that is easy and comfortable for you. No need to overthink this or feel you must push things in a more formal manner. You don't want to be "that guy" who sticks out in a way that looks odd. (And this goes for expressive socks, pocket squares, ties, colored shoes. If you over do it you can begin to look like a patchwork quilt rather than a guy with some style.)

I shared my thoughts based upon my personal style and my circle of friends and associates. But I tend to hang with a more art/fashion/home decor crowd than tech startup guys.
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