I've never been at ease with the "I buy whatever I want and can afford" answer, since there are so many things one can do with money. Buying things for oneself is just one. How about scholarships for poor children? How about medicine for them? How about food for the ones dying of starvation?
This is not to say that I haven't spent over $500 on shoes. But it is a struggle. I have to justify it to myself more than to anyone else. And I think it should be a struggle for us all. If we are to be truly responsible, we need to think long term and about others. "I buy whatever I want and can afford" just seems too short-sighted and selfish to me.
Originally Posted by DWFII
Honestly, no disrespect intended but I am curious...why do you read or post to SF then?
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I just don't understand the impulse to challenge people who are earnestly and sincerely trying their best to help. Or who pretty universally, across the board, hold a world view that is at odds with your [generic] own beliefs. It's not like people are being forced to listen or believe.
It's kind of like the vegans or the PETA folks who show up in the shoe or leather threads every now and again to chastise us all.
My attitude is that...at a certain point...if I don't share a somewhat similar view of the world with the underlying assumptions of a discussion or a forum--for instance a respect for the concept of quality--then it makes no sense to jump in and try to re-define the issues.
If you join the Catholic church you have to accept the principle of Papal infallibility or nail your theses to the door on your way out.
I don't want to put words in d's mouth, but I was in a similar situation during my first few years here: I spent less money after joining than before.
His reason for viewing the forum seem to be the same as most people: to learn about high quality goods. Because he uses this info to find such goods used, he can spend less money than when he didn't have this info.
The same was true for me several years ago. And like him, I often prefer to buy used goods over new, due to environmental/conservational reasons. The difference is that I use the money I save buying used things (and some more money, I'm sure
) to buy custom goods from highly skilled artisans.
A quick note about papal infallibility, as it is commonly misunderstood (not necessarily by you, DW):
It does not
mean that the pope makes no mistakes. On the contrary, popes confess their sinfulness at every mass along with everyone else ("I confess my sins to almighty God and to you my brothers and sisters…"). This particular pope said, "I a sinner," when asked who he was in an early interview. A recent pope said he went to confession at least once a week.
So, again, papal infallibility does not mean they can do no wrong. It means that on a very
rare occasion, the popes can create binding doctrine. This is so rare it has only happened twice in the over two thousand year history of the church.
It's based on the following theology: God is truth. To the degree that a person is inspired by God, that person knows revealed truth. This is true of all the faithful, since faith is a graced, inspired knowledge. Bishops, as the successors to the apostles, can on special occasions, when gathered together, speak for the faithful and write doctrine. Such are the church councils (Nicea, Chalcedon, etc.). On a very rare occasions, the pope, as the successor to Peter, can speak for the bishops who are speaking for the faithful who are inspired by God. On these very rare occasions, the pope is called "infallible," and again, it has only happened twice ever.