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post #31 of 55
it's fucking hideous.

wear it with that atrocious lapel monstrosity posted earlier in thread.
post #32 of 55
If you like the Gatsby tux, you can always tuck those stupid flaps into the pockets.
post #33 of 55
Thread Starter 

I'm always interested in knowing why something is "hideous" or "bad." Alternative suggestions are always welcome, too (which is why I'm seeking advisement).

post #34 of 55

I don't have time to read all the responses to this post, but hopefully this helps...I got married last May, and here is what I wore:

 

http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/boss-by-hugo-boss-tuxedo-cary-grant-black?ID=343223

 

It seems to check all the traditional black tie boxes. It will cost you $895 or less if you can get it on sale (I did for about $650).

 

Spend $100 to have it tailored however you need.

 

Next, buy these shoes (I also got these on sale):

 

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF2025_1_40000000001_-1

 

Find a good shoe guy to put rubber soles (Topy) on them. Should cost like $20.

 

Get a MTM tuxedo shirt from Brooks Brothers (about $200).

 

Get a black cummerbund from somewhere (I got mine from J. Crew for $65 I think).

 

Can't remember where I got my bow tie, but I think it was also J. Crew.

 

Lastly, find some cheap studs for your shirt. This is the easiest place to save money. I got some black and silver ones from Macy's. I think they were Kenneth Cole Reaction.

 

There you go. Head to toe traditional black tie for about $1000, give or a take a couple hundred.

post #35 of 55
Thread Starter 

Other than the construction that is pretty perfect. I might just wait until the sales after the holidays and pick one up. Thanks.

post #36 of 55
The BB tux is good but skip the Great Gatsby model, please.
post #37 of 55

Here's my two cents re your tuxedo:

 

1. No vent -- It's the classic way to go.

 

2. Grosgrain -- Don't be afraid of it not being satin. Quite the contrary--celebrate it! The best Savile Row houses have a distinct preference for grosgrain--more understated than satin and looks less like rented tux.

 

3. Patent shoes -- You're 95% of the way there with the tux. Don't stop at the end. Get yourself a pair of classic, round toe, lace up patent shoes. You'll have them for the rest of your life, and will feel (quietly) self-assured when you look at everyone else's shoes where they're trying to pawn off work clothes for black tie.

 

The whole point is that everything is special and different about black tie--the tux, shirt, tie, cummerbund/vest, socks, shoes and cuff links/studs. Go all the way, my friend, and congratulations on the upcoming nuptials!

post #38 of 55
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by loarbmhs View Post
 

Here's my two cents re your tuxedo:

 

1. No vent -- It's the classic way to go.

 

2. Grosgrain -- Don't be afraid of it not being satin. Quite the contrary--celebrate it! The best Savile Row houses have a distinct preference for grosgrain--more understated than satin and looks less like rented tux.

 

3. Patent shoes -- You're 95% of the way there with the tux. Don't stop at the end. Get yourself a pair of classic, round toe, lace up patent shoes. You'll have them for the rest of your life, and will feel (quietly) self-assured when you look at everyone else's shoes where they're trying to pawn off work clothes for black tie.

 

The whole point is that everything is special and different about black tie--the tux, shirt, tie, cummerbund/vest, socks, shoes and cuff links/studs. Go all the way, my friend, and congratulations on the upcoming nuptials!


Thanks!

post #39 of 55
This thread is on crack
post #40 of 55
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This thread is on crack

Perhaps you would be so kind as to highlight the areas in which you think the use of controlled substances is in evidence.

post #41 of 55
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Originally Posted by marcodalondra View Post

Rounder backside. I have read an Italian etiquette book from the 1950's that in the menswear section even claimed that the double vents were an "invention" of Italian tailors to accommodate this....

You read that Italian tailors invented double vents to accommodate big butts?
post #42 of 55
Would put a vote in for Kent Wang MTM tux, esp if you can make it to a trunk show to get fitted. To me a tux was something that I would wear so infrequently I could not justify a full custom thing. Kent Wang one is great, though he does not do grosgrain (only satin).
post #43 of 55
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Originally Posted by MedStudent View Post
 

I don't have time to read all the responses to this post, but hopefully this helps...I got married last May, and here is what I wore:

 

http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/boss-by-hugo-boss-tuxedo-cary-grant-black?ID=343223

 

It seems to check all the traditional black tie boxes. It will cost you $895 or less if you can get it on sale (I did for about $650).

 

Spend $100 to have it tailored however you need.

 

Next, buy these shoes (I also got these on sale):

 

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF2025_1_40000000001_-1

 

Find a good shoe guy to put rubber soles (Topy) on them. Should cost like $20.

 

Get a MTM tuxedo shirt from Brooks Brothers (about $200).

 

Get a black cummerbund from somewhere (I got mine from J. Crew for $65 I think).

 

Can't remember where I got my bow tie, but I think it was also J. Crew.

 

Lastly, find some cheap studs for your shirt. This is the easiest place to save money. I got some black and silver ones from Macy's. I think they were Kenneth Cole Reaction.

 

There you go. Head to toe traditional black tie for about $1000, give or a take a couple hundred.

 

Can be done for even less with a bit more time and driving; did mine, shoes in, for about $400, but lots of vintage stuff was involved.  By which I mean jacket, pants, stud/link set, and waistcoat.  Tie and shirt from clermontdirect.com, (also sell cummerbunds, and their shirts come with studs and black silk knot links anyway) and  shoes from zappos.

post #44 of 55
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Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post


You read that Italian tailors invented double vents to accommodate big butts?

 

And they were probably really awesome, style-consious tailors who said "you know what, I just a givva you slits in back, and jacket will a sitck out at the bottom, eh?"  I apologize immediately for my racist comment, and invoke my great grandfather from the village of Pianella, in Abruzzo, as confirmation of my right to make them without being considered an asshole. 

 

Seems likely to be true, but not good style to deal wit your big ass by cutting your jacket, instead of shaping it.

post #45 of 55
Yes I read it but I quoted it as neither I or any of you can say whether it has any foundation. What probably cause that statement in that book, is that wherever double vented were originated, italian really adopted them as it was a better solution for rounder back.

Now, you will not find this on the English only based pieces of individual reaserch like the Black Tie Guide, and some people that consider those sources as the only truth will not accept that no vent is not the best way to cut a dinner jacket that will actually be used at function. Again, the Duke of Windsor, during the 20s-50s period when he contributed a lot in establishing the change of dinner cloth from white tie to black tie, had all of his dinner jacket and suits double vented...

What is really true, is that many keep mentioning riding on horses, when riding coat were basically body coat (centrally vented), and later country jackets were still centrally vented.

A shaped jacket with no vent will not deal with a rounded back very well in movements and sitting down and vents help that. Bu many of you, some I am sure have not experience in attending black tie events, will continue just saying that is more traditional to have no vents and even get people to close jacket that were cut to be vented....
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