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Today's musing is about The American Dream. Is it still alive? Heck, did it ever exist? Why would a politician say it's dead?
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Today's musing is about The American Dream. Is it still alive? Heck, did it ever exist? Why would a politician say it's dead?

If you like your American Dream, you can keep it?
post #63 of 5129
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If you like your American Dream, you can keep it?

Winning!!!! LOL
post #64 of 5129
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Why would a politician say it's dead?

 

That's da bidness model, sucka.

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Today's musing is about The American Dream. Is it still alive? Heck, did it ever exist? Why would a politician say it's dead?

Rich.... the man from up north (a Canadastani) asking about the American Dream. biggrin.gif:D
post #66 of 5129
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Rich.... the man from up north (a Canadastani) asking about the American Dream. biggrin.gif:D

The American Dream is an immigrant's story more times than not. wink.gif
post #67 of 5129
The American dream is still alive for many immigrant populations, IMO.

I think data shows the bottom quintile being less economically mobile than in previous generations. I believe the data. I think it's true that fewer Americans can grow up in poverty and then achieve.

The left diagnoses this as a crisis of capitalism, of income inequality. David Simon (of "The Wire" fame) just wrote a long, scathing indictment of over-capitalism, which he unsurprisingly (preposterously) pegs as starting right in 1980, what a coincidence.

I disagree. I see this as a crisis of social and moral values. I'm as libertarian as the next guy; if you want to put your pee pee in another man's mouth, and even have a fabulous wedding ceremony, I say go forth and don't multiply. Hooray.

But the sexual revolution, the eager breakdown of the nuclear family as a standard, the beatification of single motherhood (which, David-Simon-like, I will (preposterously) peg to Dan Quayle vs. Murphy Brown), and maybe school busing as well, have provided benefits that accrued almost solely to the white middle class, who may now bone whomever and however often they like during college and during young professional-hood. The results of this revolution have been an emptying of cities, and an unmitigated disaster in American-born minority communities, where we are now several generations into children raised by children raised by children who have no idea how to be a socially functioning member of society. Everything that I read about early childhood brain development suggests how important early social involvement is, and I am convinced that very little healthy child-rearing is going on in Pen Lucy, the drug-infested neighborhood just a few blocks from where I live. This isn't just about "role models" and whatnot, this is basic social functioning and ability.

looking forward to norcal dismissing me as a racist fuckwit
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post #69 of 5129
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Doug,

A thoughtful post. I have put forward a few times that I think US society is in a Catch 22. We, well most of us, seem to value freedom of the individual as being an extremely important value and a social good. This conflicts with, as I see it, the obvious need to put a generational block into many levels of society in that it would benefit society to stop the transmission of certain social mores that have been propagated. How society honours the individual while basically removing a whole generation of children from their parents is beyond me but at some point communal creches are going to be needed to make the next generation productive citizens.

Then we can get some Randian dystopia such as in Anthems going much quicker...

What I'm saying is I have no answers.
post #70 of 5129
Yeah, I agree, I have no answers.

There's more to say, but not sure I feel like going into it.
post #71 of 5129
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Today's musing is about The American Dream. Is it still alive? Heck, did it ever exist? Why would a politician say it's dead?

"It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin

NSFW.

post #72 of 5129
All is lost.

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Today's musing is about drones. Not about drones murdering people in far off places but rather the Feds monitoring US citizens within the US borders using drones. I find it amusing that this is all happening under Obama but that's another musing...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/10/us/colorado-town-drone-ordinance/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

A Colorado town is considering a town ordinance that would place a bounty on US government drones shot down by citizens. Now this sounds a bit loony but is this not some sort of weather vane for how the populace is feeling about their privacy and safety regarding governmental surveillance through drones? Not to worry though as the Feds will stand for this:
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In fact, the FAA is keeping a close watch on Deer Trail's special election. It issued a statement that sounded like a warning.

"Shooting at an unmanned aircraft could result in criminal or civil liability, just as would firing at a manned airplane," it read.

You lawyers: where does the airspace over my property stop being mine? I know there's something about mineral rights and air rights but the height of my house?
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Today's musing is about drones. Not about drones murdering people in far off places but rather the Feds monitoring US citizens within the US borders using drones. I find it amusing that this is all happening under Obama but that's another musing...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/10/us/colorado-town-drone-ordinance/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

A Colorado town is considering a town ordinance that would place a bounty on US government drones shot down by citizens. Now this sounds a bit loony but is this not some sort of weather vane for how the populace is feeling about their privacy and safety regarding governmental surveillance through drones? Not to worry though as the Feds will stand for this:
You lawyers: where does the airspace over my property stop being mine? I know there's something about mineral rights and air rights but the height of my house?

The bounty could be used to pay Harvey's retainer because destruction of Federal property is certainly going to lead to jail time.
post #75 of 5129
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49 USC § 40103 - Sovereignty and use of airspace
(a) Sovereignty and Public Right of Transit.—
(1) The United States Government has exclusive sovereignty of airspace of the United States.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/40103

There's some FAA regulation that allows pilots to fly planes no lower than 500 feet above standing structures. I do not know if that applies to drones (probably not). This does not mean you own the 500 feet above your roof, and I do not know if such an argument has been made.

As far as how high you can build your home that is almost certainly dependent on local zoning restrictions rather than the federal government.

EDIT - Although the definition section is:
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49 USC § 40102 - Definitions

(6) “aircraft” means any contrivance invented, used, or designed to navigate, or fly in, the air.

Which one would think would include drones. But there's probably an exception for law enforcement in there somewhere.
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