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post #556 of 5128
What are the public policy implications of creationism beyond teaching creationism to children?

Anyway, believing that astrology is "scientific" is a whole 'nother level of stupid. It's one thing to say you don't believe in evolution; it's another to say superstition is "scientific." And, yeah, I know "intelligent design" is presented as a science, but it at least purports to be one and has some of the trappings.
post #557 of 5128
Ata's point is valid that Democraps are just as, if not more, anti-scientific than Rethuglicans. Of course, you could both come to the Libertarian side which is 100% scientific and not at all biased and is totally awesome.
post #558 of 5128
Canada, do you really suck this much? Defend yourself.

"A college student in Canada recently apologized for forwarding an email that included a short, fake video of President Barack Obama angrily kicking open a door after a press conference.

The spoof, which first appeared several years ago on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno and has since gone viral, was included as a .GIF image in a weekly email McGill University student Brian Farnan, vice president for internal affairs for the school’s students society, sent around to his peers in the fall.

According to Farnan, the .GIF image “was intended to bring a humorous tone to the email and use President Obama’s frustration with the press conference in question to mimic the frustration students feel when confronted with midterm examinations.”

But the joke caught the ire of the campus leaders, who launched an investigation, reports William Jacobson of Legal Insurrection.

“That got him in trouble with the thought police, who filed a complaint against him with SSMU’s Equity Committee, which enforces an expansive Equity Policy banning a broad range of supposedly ‘oppressive’ conduct,” Jacobson reports. “Although the SSMU process does not appear to be public, we do know the end result, Farnan issued a public apology for engaging in microaggression.”

“Despite the innocent intentions influencing my decision to use this particular image, I have come to recognize the negative implications of adding the .GIF image within this given context,” Farnan wrote in a Jan. 27 public mea culpa.

Jacobson argues the Equity Committee at McGill University, a public research institution in Montreal, is akin to “speech codes at many U.S. universities, where what matters is the subjective offense of the complainant.”"
post #559 of 5128
Thread Starter 
This thread is now about your experiences with microagression.

Please use this chart to categorize your experiences:

Microassault: An explicit racial derogation characterized primarily by verbal or nonverbal attack meant to hurt the intended victim through name calling, avoidant behavior, or purposeful discriminatory actions.

Microinsult: Characterized by communications that convey rudeness and insensitivity and demean a person’s racial heritage or identity.

Microinvalidation: Characterized by communications that exclude, negate, or nullify the psychological thoughts, feelings, or experiential reality of a person.

Microrape: Characterized by predatory non-physical prurient communications with the intent to penetrate the victim's emotional security on the basis of heteronormative impositions.

Microcastration: An attack intended to deny the victim's ability to fulfill their gender role. Usually perpetrated by a cis-male by asserting gender norms against a person.
Edited by Piobaire - 2/18/14 at 6:06am
post #560 of 5128
It is possible I am a serial microrapist.
post #561 of 5128
Thread Starter 
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It is possible I am a serial microrapist.

You once told me the Scottish side won out with you there? confused.gif
post #562 of 5128
What I said:
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microrape is explicitly non-physical.

on the other thing it would definitely be macro.

What I should have said:
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DON'T MICROCASTRATE ME YOU CIS-NORMATIVE BIGOT!!!!!
post #563 of 5128
Thread Starter 
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microrape is explicitly non-physical.

on the other thing it would definitely be macro.

Your last comment is certainly a clear case of microcastration.
post #564 of 5128
dammit, sorry, i missed the tee-up. my bad. i can go back and edit if you like.
post #565 of 5128
Thread Starter 
Well played, you cis-normative bastard!

I think my earlier comment to you was a microinsult.
post #566 of 5128
I am ashamed, I had not realized how deeply entrenched my cis-privilege is. It blinds me to the microassaults I no doubt commit daily.
post #567 of 5128
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Ata's point is valid that Democraps are just as, if not more, anti-scientific than Rethuglicans.

There's a difference between stupidity and being "anti-science." I'm not especially concerned with determining which side has more stupid people who believe stupid things; I'm a lot more concerned about active campaigns from people in positions of power to attack/subvert/discredit the process of science. That's "anti-science."
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What are the public policy implications of creationism beyond teaching creationism to children?

Anyway, believing that astrology is "scientific" is a whole 'nother level of stupid. It's one thing to say you don't believe in evolution; it's another to say superstition is "scientific." And, yeah, I know "intelligent design" is presented as a science, but it at least purports to be one and has some of the trappings.
ID "purporting" to be a science and weaseling itself into schools on those grounds is exactly what makes it much more damaging than simple idiocy like believing in astrology (or creationism, for that matter). Are there any state legislatures voting to "teach the controversy" about astrology? It's stupid but it's meaningless.

I'd love to see more widespread knowledge in this country, but it is what it is. Individual people on both sides believe in all sorts of stupid shit. The policy standpoints are the more interesting question. The anti-vaxx people are dangerous, but going back to brokencycle's original point, they don't get a free pass about being anti-science except among their own community of anti-vaxx douches.
post #568 of 5128
Gib, you have just micro insulted both ATA and I. I expect an apology, forthwith.
post #569 of 5128
A micro insult deserves a micro apology.


I'm not that sorry
post #570 of 5128
I agree with my own previous point that anti-vaxxers are stupid and dangerous.

The problem I have with anti-gmo types is that there will be a cost associated with the labeling and companies will quickly try to add more "natural foods" which will raise food prices extraordinarily high. Then the government will pass an even larger farm bill that will bring prices back down slightly while increasing government spending by more than it saves.

Genetic engineering of crops and food as we know it today has been going on for 40 years. We have been selective breeding and cross-breeding plants and animals for that purpose for thousands of years. I listened to a lecture by an executive at Cargill, and he said that while people report to care about labeling and GMO free, they found that only about 3-5% of people in pilot studies look for such labeling and factor it into their purchasing decision. This was in preparation for the CA referendum passing.
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