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post #451 of 5110
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So ultimately, I agree with you guys in principle. Again, just not sure this example, from the facts I've been able to turn up, should be the canary in the coal mine.

My musings are not always linear with what triggers them. That's the deal with musings. wink.gif
post #452 of 5110
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My musing for today is the outrage I'm seeing drummed up today over some racist tweets about Coke's Super Bowl commercial last night. It seems that whenever some idiot makes a racist comment online, there's an army of Gawkers out there anxious and excited to whip up the firestorm.

I know that it plays into a narrative, but sheesh. If you're going to get outraged every time someone anonymously posts something dumb on the internet, you're in for a long and stressful and disappointing life.

I believe I will un-friend one person today over this. He's always all over this stuff. Sardonically, the Cheerios commercial with the bi-racial girl that got this train going a few months ago was also played during the SB.
post #453 of 5110
I might be wrong. In fact, I probably am.
post #454 of 5110
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My musing for today is the outrage I'm seeing drummed up today over some racist tweets about Coke's Super Bowl commercial last night. It seems that whenever some idiot makes a racist comment online, there's an army of Gawkers out there anxious and excited to whip up the firestorm.

I know that it plays into a narrative, but sheesh. If you're going to get outraged every time someone anonymously posts something dumb on the internet, you're in for a long and stressful and disappointing life.

I believe I will un-friend one person today over this. He's always all over this stuff. Sardonically, the Cheerios commercial with the bi-racial girl that got this train going a few months ago was also played during the SB.

Here's a little something concerning that Cheerios commercial and MSNBC: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/30/msnbc-apologizes-for-cheerios-tweet-rnc-fires-back/?hpt=hp_bn3

You'd think they would have learned from the panel mocking Mitt's black grandchild.
post #455 of 5110
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I might be wrong. In fact, I probably am.

I don't know what happened in this case, obviously. One way or the other, we can and do agree on the potential for abuse. I can easily imagine a scenario in which we see an overzealous lone investigator/investigators, on a small scale, going to an individual at the phone company and imploring them to turn over the records without a warrant because "lives are on the line." (and I can imagine the SVU episode where Mariska Hargitay is making that call to save a child, saves the day, and then gets a scolding from the captain afterwards, thung thung!) (another side note, MH is looking awfully hard this past season or two.)

Worse, we can imagine someone higher up the food chain bullying the phone company into turning over records as a routine matter of course under vague threats. Witness what's going on now at S&P/Geithner. Not for a minute do I think any administration, but probably this one more than most, is above that.
post #456 of 5110
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Here's a little something concerning that Cheerios commercial and MSNBC: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/30/msnbc-apologizes-for-cheerios-tweet-rnc-fires-back/?hpt=hp_bn3

You'd think they would have learned from the panel mocking Mitt's black grandchild.

The apology is bullshit. They made their point. It's like when a prosecutor brings in evidence he knows he's not supposed to and the jury is instructed to disregard it. Only you can't call a mistrial in the court of public influence.
post #457 of 5110
the coke Super Bowl ad was hilarious. we had closed captions on because people were talking loudly and for the hindi part the lady sang "america". in hindi. which sounded like uh-mer-ee-kah.

also it's not like the msnbc cheerios tweet was wrong. the last cheerios ad had a bunch of (right wing) people saying a lot of racist remarks.

btw the cheerios commercial during the Super Bowl was a different ad from the one played a few months ago.
post #458 of 5110
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They made their point.

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also it's not like the msnbc cheerios tweet was wrong. the last cheerios ad had a bunch of (right wing) people saying a lot of racist remarks.

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post #459 of 5110
well i wasn't disagreeing with you. i was just saying i don't think msnbc really needed to apologize if it weren't all the pc bullshit
post #460 of 5110
Of course they had to apologize. They insinuated that "right wing" people are racists, which is outrageous. I am "right wing" and not racist, and as their own exec admitted, it is detrimental to discourse.

BTW, the Cheerios "controversy" was down to racist comments made anonymously on the YouTube page that the video was posted to. There is nothing to suggest that the commenters were "right-wing." For all anyone knows, they were teenage children from Nigeria. Anonymous postings on internet page != right wing commentary.

But like I said, they made their point, and those who don't bother to know the facts only have their preconceptions reinforced.

But reinforcing prejudgements is cool, right?
post #461 of 5110
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Of course they had to apologize. They insinuated that "right wing" people are racists, which is outrageous. I am "right wing" and not racist, and as their own exec admitted, it is detrimental to discourse.

BTW, the Cheerios "controversy" was down to racist comments made anonymously on the YouTube page that the video was posted to. There is nothing to suggest that the commenters were "right-wing." For all anyone knows, they were teenage children from Nigeria. Anonymous postings on internet page != right wing commentary.

But like I said, they made their point, and those who don't bother to know the facts only have their preconceptions reinforced.

But reinforcing prejudgements is cool, right?

Is there a YouTube video that doesn't have racist comments?
post #462 of 5110
No. The right wing is constantly monitoring YouTube.
post #463 of 5110
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I guess I'll stop leaving notes when I go to the range to practice!

My thought was probably a bit more tinfoil.gif than this particular instance. I think the government and private interests are tracking a crap ton of us, to one level or another, and we have no idea. Take a read through this:

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/427687/if-you-have-a-smart-phone-anyone-can-now-track-your-every-move/

How many times have we heard about people being located using security cameras, bridge toll systems, etc? I'm not worried Obama is going to declare himself king or anything but I actually believe we have no idea the level of intrusive monitoring that is actually going on all the time.

Dude, there are several cases of people being around at VERY DANGEROUS RALLIES (like anti-hunting in Britain) or whatever, having their car pics being taken by those cameras (supposed to monitor traffic not spy on you) and then being arrested for random reasons 3 times in a month. You add cellphone tracking, fb+google+whateverbigdatafucks gaehring your consumer profile and selling it round and round and we're in a dystopian future of surveillance coupled with auto-surveillance.

BTW has anyone here read this or any of this other books on the topic:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0674035070/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1IP4SW0VW8HIU&coliid=I1MM49M4ZIG1OJ
post #464 of 5110
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Originally Posted by Douglas View Post

Of course they had to apologize. They insinuated that "right wing" people are racists, which is outrageous. I am "right wing" and not racist, and as their own exec admitted, it is detrimental to discourse.

BTW, the Cheerios "controversy" was down to racist comments made anonymously on the YouTube page that the video was posted to. There is nothing to suggest that the commenters were "right-wing." For all anyone knows, they were teenage children from Nigeria. Anonymous postings on internet page != right wing commentary.

But like I said, they made their point, and those who don't bother to know the facts only have their preconceptions reinforced.

But reinforcing prejudgements is cool, right?

well it was twitter blowing up and then blogs picking up that and then mainstream media covering the blogs so full retard circle, but yes. very cool
post #465 of 5110
The whole media outrage complex (both sides of the political spectrum) gives a lot of power to the cranks. Years ago they'd just be ignored by the people around them, or maybe get a little audience calling in to radio shows. Now they post something on Youtube or Twitter and get national attention.


Speaking of call-in shows, CSPAN radio has the worst selection of lunatic callers for a show that's not deliberately targeting lunatics. Good lord.
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