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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I knew I was wrong. frown.gif

While I agree with #2 I think people often do not offer reasonable, intelligent, and/or honest disagreement with the data. I say this as glib and blanket dismissals are often offered that show no real thought behind them. I say this because, as mentioned above, this is not a mickey mouse or narrowly focused endeavor going on these days. The stats are so robust, predictive, and reproducible that I find them hard to dismiss without some strong effort behind them. Part of it, as alluded to in my previous post, is no one deals with the top of the IQ charts and always makes the conversation black vs. white.

IDK. I'm stuck betwixt and between on this one. I have complete certitude it is often mouth breathing peckerwoods with IQs of 80 mouthing something to do with these data sets. That said at some point a reasonable person has to either decided to accept or reject mounds of data and research gathered by the experts.

Yeah, no question that lots of people on both "sides" (pretending for the sake of the current discussion that these issues easily and usefully break down in a binary way) approach the data in a way that is intellectually dishonest or completely distorted by their social/political/whatever views. And that's on top of the fact there are some tricky inherent issues in terms of cause/effect, categorical definitions, etc.
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

I'm sorry you feel that, but your feel is wrong, bro.
Your response to mine is something of a non-sequitur, and I'm not even clear on what I'm supposedly dismissing. The quote above seems to concern the second of the two choices you posited, not the third one I offered.

1. There is data.
2. What that data demonstrates and what inferences can be draw from the data can be the subject of reasonable, intellectually honest disagreement.
3. People can also cite the data as part of circular otherwise intellectually dishonest arguments, or simply stupid arguments or insinuations.

In this thread and elsewhere, people do #3 while claiming to do #2. That's pretty clearly what Fuuma was alluding to. Your original question seems a bit disingenuous, since nobody who has been around here for a while -- regardless of what they think about Fuuma's value judgments or world view -- could reasonably believe that he was disputing the existence of the data, or that he has an objection to people raising subjects or facts that some regard as touchy.

I certainly have no objection to labeling yours a real "#2 post," but a #4 could also work:

4. People can use spurious allegations of racism to silence debate and avoid having to make losing arguments.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

I certainly have no objection to labeling yours a real "#2 post," but a #4 could also work:

4. People can use spurious allegations of racism to silence debate and avoid having to make losing arguments.

Yep, that happens too.
I stopped at three only to point out that Pio's proffered choice was too narrow, not to suggest that adding my third possibility completed the universe.
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A sweet rarity of agreement. cheers.gif
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I think the prevalence of idiots and jackasses in the world is one of SF's great unifying themes.
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

I think the prevalence of idiots and jackasses in the world is one of SF's great unifying themes.


Huh? wha? who's asking for me?
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In other news:


https://www.reddit.com/r/Truecels/
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The Truecels subreddit is an online community where involuntarily celibate males can vent and express their feelings and frustrations without fear of getting banned. The moderators of other online communities for incels (e.g. ForeverAlone) are often not so welcoming to the very people they are supposed to cater to. Females may post here too, but they will not be given any special treatment, and you will not be banned for disagreeing with one. This is largely a free speech subreddit, but with some limits to what we tolerate.
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

In other news:


https://www.reddit.com/r/Truecels/

I'm guessing that's old news around here.
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I'd like Conne to weigh in on the subject.
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

I'd like Conne to weigh in on the subject.

I have it on good authority that Conne is now a former truecel.
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As of earlier this week, that sub had a picture of Elliot Rogers as their banner. I guess he's some kind of hero for them. There was a mini Reddit scandal about it, looks like they caved.


Pretty funny, if gross and disturbing.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

As of earlier this week, that sub had a picture of Elliot Rogers as their banner. I guess he's some kind of hero for them. There was a mini Reddit scandal about it, looks like they caved.


Pretty funny, if gross and disturbing.

Had to Google that name. FFS.
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Truecels/

Man, this shit's to pathetic to mock.
https://caamib.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/darkness-2/
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Damn LD you coulda put in a link . Now I gotta google it

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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

Man, this shit's to pathetic to mock.
https://caamib.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/darkness-2/
Jesus.
I'm confused by this math:
Anyway, yeah. 2 relationships, 4 women I had sex with. Since one of them was a girl I was in a relationship with while we had sex that’s 5 women altogether.
Oh, never mind. I see what he's saying.
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Originally Posted by Numbernine View Post

Damn LD you coulda put in a link . Now I gotta google it

Sorry, I always assume everyone but me gets these references.
It's not Discount Doublecheck guy, I can tell you that.
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