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Yes, people forget that Gawker owns a bunch of other sites and some of them are quality. I personally love Lifehacker and would hate to see it go away.

You are dead to me. mad.gif Anything with "hacker" in the title (unless it's actually being used to refer to someone who attempts to bypass online security systems) sucks ass by definition.
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Some of the coats are pretty good looking to me.

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Disney/Marvel threatening to pull all production from the State of Georgia if GA legislature signs the pending religious liberty bill into effect. Apparently, allowing faith-based groups to say who can and can't use faith-based group property is too discriminatory in this day and age.

Y'know outdated principles like property rights and control. Just little things.
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Seems like if you believe that private companies should be allowed to discriminate against gays, you would have to believe that Disney/Marvel is likewise perfectly justified in only doing business in states that have laws they find appropriate.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Seems like if you believe that private companies should be allowed to discriminate against gays, you would have to believe that Disney/Marvel is likewise perfectly justified in only doing business in states that have laws they find appropriate.

I'm going to assume you were against the Cuban boycott and for all the right reasons. I know I was against it for all the right reasons.
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Seems like if you believe that private companies should be allowed to discriminate against gays, you would have to believe that Disney/Marvel is likewise perfectly justified in only doing business in states that have laws they find appropriate.

No, I don't disagree with that at all. I'm just put off by Disney publicly holding the carrot out in front of the state to influence policymaking.
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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post

Disney/Marvel threatening to pull all production from the State of Georgia if GA legislature signs the pending religious liberty bill into effect. Apparently, allowing faith-based groups to say who can and can't use faith-based group property is too discriminatory in this day and age.

Y'know outdated principles like property rights and control. Just little things.

Like free speech rights, having property rights don't mean "the right to be free from all consequences arising from the choices I make about how I exercise my rights". The same with a State's right to pass certain legislation regulating issues within its jurisdiction.

Disney/Marvel is a for-profit company. Clearly they've made a decision that aligning themselves unambiguously with inclusion and diversity as opposed to sexual orientation discrimination is a good strategy for their brand. They're throwing some of their economic clout behind it (or more to the point, are making a point of being seen to do so.) Corporations threatening to move their business or take similar actions if political issues don't go their way is hardly new. Not sure why anyone would get butthurt about this latest example of it. Or maybe Disney, unlike other corporations, should have neither property nor free speech rights with respect to how it spends its money?
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No, I don't disagree with that at all. I'm just put off by Disney publicly holding the carrot out in front of the state to influence policymaking.
Oh, come on. Countless companies do this Every. Single. Day.
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think of the kids, LD
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Oh, come on. Countless companies do this Every. Single. Day.

I don't doubt it. It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth (no homo).
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No, I don't disagree with that at all. I'm just put off by Disney publicly holding the carrot out in front of the state to influence policymaking.

i think this is the biggest differentiating factor. while it's an assumption, i don't think those other business threaten to withdraw in the case of being forced to transact all-inclusively (this may very well not be a feasible option for them).

that said, how would it be different than, say, a diner with a "no blacks" sign at the door ?
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I don't doubt it. It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth (no homo).

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i think this is the biggest differentiating factor. while it's an assumption, i don't think those other business threaten to withdraw in the case of being forced to transact all-inclusively (this may very well not be a feasible option for them).

To be clear, I was speaking more broadly. For example, it's not uncommon for businesses to threaten to direct business elsewhere or even to up stakes and move if tax or zoning decisions or legislation don't go their way, if various environmental, labor, etc. regulations are adopted, etc.
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

i think this is the biggest differentiating factor. while it's an assumption, i don't think those other business threaten to withdraw in the case of being forced to transact all-inclusively (this may very well not be a feasible option for them).

that said, how would it be different than, say, a diner with a "no blacks" sign at the door ?

For a start, it's apparently only "faith-based orgs" - whether that includes the Hobby Lobby's of the world, I'm not sure. Sounds more like churches to me based on reports, but I admittedly haven't looked close at the proposed legislation. The tried line is that the general intent is to prevent the forcing of faith-based groups (ie churches) to be governmentally coerced in to performing gay marriages if their dogma goes against it, etc.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I'm going to assume you were against the Cuban boycott and for all the right reasons. I know I was against it for all the right reasons.

Is "I like rum" considered a right reason?
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

To be clear, I was speaking more broadly. For example, it's not uncommon for businesses to threaten to direct business elsewhere or even to up stakes and move if tax or zoning decisions or legislation don't go their way, if various environmental, labor, etc. regulations are adopted, etc.

I'm trying to think of how to work the union driven suit that Boeing fought for a decade to open up in SC but am drawing a blank. frown.gif
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