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What is a Macklemore and how can we make it go away?
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Originally Posted by donjuan17 View Post

Interestingly coming from the Canadian whose motherland has mastered the art of choosing the winning side.

Canadians are always on the right side of history. This is accepted in these fora. Disagreement may lead to a ban hammer.
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Since Canada and history have been brought up I thought I would muse about a moment of Canadian history.

As we all know the talk of inequality of income is all the rage. Many folks here, in the MSM, fringe media, and IRL talk about how there is a pending revolution due to it. Many of these same folks look back fondly on the 1960s due to their perceived union strength and the stability (and implied happiness) of the middle class. Well, enter Paul Chartier. Here's his wiki liink: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Joseph_Chartier
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Paul Joseph Chartier (1921-May 18, 1966) was a Canadian man who died when a bomb he was preparing exploded in a washroom of the Parliament of Canada. It is believed that he was preparing to bomb the House of Commons.

Born in rural Alberta to parents who owned a small hotel, Chartier became a trucker at age 20. However, in 1960 he ran into financial trouble and was forced to declare bankruptcy and sell his truck. He was also investigated for fraud and his marriage failed. Moving to Toronto, he settled in a rooming house on Major Street.

After his death, police found a number of writings and letters earlier sent to newspapers were uncovered. He stated that because of government actions, no one could afford to live and that politicians were rich and greedy. He attacked politicians and homosexuals in his writings. He wrote that his plan was to "exterminate as many members as possible," and that he was prepared to die in the process. He declared his desire to become Prime Minister of Canada, and stated that he would appoint Toronto alderman June Marks as his Vice President.

Revolution against the "rich and greedy" you say?
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Interesting article on history have sides. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/12/wrong-side-of-history-is-on-right-side-of-it.html

As is so often the case, the best part of these articles can be found in the comments section:
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So: treating gays as human beings and giving women full legal control over their reproductive choices, affirmative action to bring minorities into colleges and professions are just the same as the people who hate these things, and want guns everywhere? These are somehow equivalent things for the overall social good?

No. There's a sustained assault on the rights of women, gays, minorities, any semblance of gun control. As well as fair wages and affordable health care for a besieged middle and working class. This sustained assault has been going on for decades, from one side- the Republican, right wing side, the Tea Party, Fox News and the whole hateful sphere of right wing media.

Stop acting as if both sides are just the same. They're not . Wanting rights and freedom and justice for people is the opposite of actively thwarting such things, with money and malice. Glad you're familiar with Marx though. Keep Russia in 1917 in mind, the French Revolution too. Because this cannot go on, this destruction of the once-great American middle class, reduced to near-poverty. While billionaires frolic. This is not a tenable situation for a just society.

Godwin's law in the house!
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Obama is a defacto Republican. You may have him if you like. He's adept at talking the talk then abandoning the left to support right wing atrocities.

And there is no such thing as the "far left." In teabaggerland, anyone who's not wearing a white hood is on the far left as far as they're concerned. But in reality, we liberals are more like conservatives, trying to make the center hold, and the so-called conservatives are the anarchists trying to blow the whole thing up.

Referring to Karl Marx as a "noted lefty" is cute. Stupid, but cute. But in exchange, Republicans are associated with the noted righty Hitler, so I'd it's a fair deal.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Interesting article on history have sides. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/12/wrong-side-of-history-is-on-right-side-of-it.html

From the comments -
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Elizabeth Warren is an outstanding liberal, as fine a politician on the left as we've had in a long time.

Obama is a defacto Republican. You may have him if you like. He's adept at talking the talk then abandoning the left to support right wing atrocities.

And there is no such thing as the "far left." In teabaggerland, anyone who's not wearing a white hood is on the far left as far as they're concerned. But in reality, we liberals are more like conservatives, trying to make the center hold, and the so-called conservatives are the anarchists trying to blow the whole thing up.

Referring to Karl Marx as a "noted lefty" is cute. Stupid, but cute. But in exchange, Republicans are associated with the noted righty Hitler, so I'd it's a fair deal.

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As is so often the case, the best part of these articles can be found in the comments section:
Godwin's law in the house!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL, I was quoting the same thing at the same time as you, you beat me by a few minutes.
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They're just so wonderful.
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My musing for the day is one of hopelessness. That Richard Sherman's classless, silly rant has spilled so much ink, and that worse, criticism of it is tantamount to racism, for me represents an inflection point for American society. And not the good kind of inflection point.
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I enjoy watching football, but I just can't stand listening to people talk about it. I broke down and watched the rant, and my response is: that's it?
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Originally Posted by Douglas View Post

My musing for the day is one of hopelessness. That Richard Sherman's classless, silly rant has spilled so much ink, and that worse, criticism of it is tantamount to racism, for me represents an inflection point for American society. And not the good kind of inflection point.

What you fail to understand is that most of society couldn't give two shakes of a rat's ass.
It's the media that's pushing it.
They aren't in the news business, they're in the entertainment business.
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Remind me why my tax dollars subsidize these people.
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Originally Posted by Douglas View Post

My musing for the day is one of hopelessness. That Richard Sherman's classless, silly rant has spilled so much ink, and that worse, criticism of it is tantamount to racism, for me represents an inflection point for American society. And not the good kind of inflection point.

The whole hubbub about it has been ridiculous, but the supposed racial component is just outrageous.
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Originally Posted by donjuan17 View Post

What you fail to understand is that most of society couldn't give two shakes of a rat's ass.
It's the media that's pushing it.
They aren't in the news business, they're in the entertainment business.

I disagree. I think there is a huge reaction to this in the African American community.
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I disagree. I think there is a huge reaction to this in the African American community.

 

Just curious, what is this based on? All I've read/heard comes from the White Guilt Brigade (Gawker/MSNBC/etc).

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Originally Posted by donjuan17 View Post

What you fail to understand is that most of society couldn't give two shakes of a rat's ass.
It's the media that's pushing it.
They aren't in the news business, they're in the entertainment business.

First, the media is in the revenue business. They really do not care how they obtain those revenues and they'll do whatever is needed. Report news, create news...be the news. That news can be about entertainment but the content is really moot as long as it generates revenues for them.

Second, parts of society not only give a rat's ass they think it's the most important thing going and yet another vindication of their beliefs that US society is simply a rotten institution and must be ended as we know it. The damage happens in the fact that parts of US society are indeed rotten but those parts are vastly outweighed for how wonderful US society actually is, in terms of freedom, opportunity to advance, egalitarianism, acceptance of folks different from one's self, etc. but this event just allows people to focus on the small, rotten portion of US society. The truth is Sherman has led and is leading a life that very few of us can imagine and vastly superior to the life led by 99% of people on the planet.
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