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post #3766 of 5119
According to the law as I read it, you would at least need to have a bonafide emotional or mental illness. Sure, you could easily get a diagnosis from some doctor...but if you are willing to get a mental illness on your record just to drag your dog around...you probably are actually mentally ill.

I think the bigger problem is that there are no real clear requirements for what constitutes an animal that that supports your emotional illness. Can you just re-purpose the family pet? Buy a collar on amazon and call it a service dog without any actual training.

When it was just blind people, it was pretty legit. Those dogs are some of the best behaved animals you will ever see, and are specifically trained on how to act when in situations where dogs are not typically allowed.
post #3767 of 5119
And I would like to think that Turkey-Man is just doing this to have a laugh and to highlight the absurdity of it all. He's fighting the good fight to stop women with chihuahuas everywhere.
post #3768 of 5119
Thread Starter 
Of course these are just three data points but they are the totality of my personal experience with "emotional support dogs."

First is I'm faintly acquainted with a husband/wife that train them. They always seem like very well mannered dogs with great dispositions. Not sure why they got into this but apparently they do it free of charge as their personal mitzvah. Good on them.

Second is a wealthy retired couple. They're about 70, no kids, the type of people that never cook but eat out every night even if it's just at the clubhouse on the grounds of their country club/golf course. They bought a standard purebred poodle two years ago and it was the first pet they've ever had. Holy fuck. Every conversation starts off with how the dog took a shit during her walk or how well she behaved when getting combed, etc. They became the very annoying type of parents that think everyone else should see the special flower nature of their pet and want to know if it took a shit on the morning walk. He has told me they're getting the service animal training just so they can fly with it.

Last is a crazy psycho nurse. She broke her lower leg a few years ago and claims this led to her developing fibro and PTSD. She managed to get herself declared disabled and is now collecting SSI and won a worker's comp claim on the leg (it happened at work). She trying to get worker's comp to get her a service dog to help her with PTSD and fibro.

So I figure a good percent of this is all bullshit. It makes it tough on the legit uses of an emotional support animal.
post #3769 of 5119

on my running route i almost always see an older lady who apparently trains guide dogs. she walks very slowly and deliberately on the "wrong" side of a pretty busy asphalt trail.

 

i get the sense she's testing em as well as training em. pretty sure the ones who chase strangers' frisbees or squirrels don't make the cut. on the other hand, i know a blind lady who has an older guide dog that eats hella scraps from strangers, so i dunno?

 

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on a related note, i see a lot of blind people in my town and i just assume they're reasonably capable in their day-to-day lives. but once i saw a dude turning in circles about 6 feet in the roadway and i could tell he was utterly adrift. so i called to him so he'd know where the sidewalk was and it was like i threw him a life preserver. tbh i don't think he understood how it happened in the first place which i can imagine is a real skullfuck.

post #3770 of 5119
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Of course these are just three data points but they are the totality of my personal experience with "emotional support dogs."

First is I'm faintly acquainted with a husband/wife that train them. They always seem like very well mannered dogs with great dispositions. Not sure why they got into this but apparently they do it free of charge as their personal mitzvah. Good on them.

Second is a wealthy retired couple. They're about 70, no kids, the type of people that never cook but eat out every night even if it's just at the clubhouse on the grounds of their country club/golf course. They bought a standard purebred poodle two years ago and it was the first pet they've ever had. Holy fuck. Every conversation starts off with how the dog took a shit during her walk or how well she behaved when getting combed, etc. They became the very annoying type of parents that think everyone else should see the special flower nature of their pet and want to know if it took a shit on the morning walk. He has told me they're getting the service animal training just so they can fly with it.

Last is a crazy psycho nurse. She broke her lower leg a few years ago and claims this led to her developing fibro and PTSD. She managed to get herself declared disabled and is now collecting SSI and won a worker's comp claim on the leg (it happened at work). She trying to get worker's comp to get her a service dog to help her with PTSD and fibro.

So I figure a good percent of this is all bullshit. It makes it tough on the legit uses of an emotional support animal.

 

How does one get PTSD from breaking a leg?

post #3771 of 5119
I think this is one of those things that, like the REI lifetime return policy, has been ruined by the internet's ability to spread information and connect people.

before shitty people had such wide and easy access to each other (via facebook and such), there simply wasn't enough of a critical mass of people who are both smart enough to figure out how to exploit the rules, and shitty enough to actually do it.

If my buddy broke something through misuse (or didn't even break it and just wanted a new version) and then took it back to REI 5 years later, I'd call him an asshole. But there were tons of places on the internet where it was glamorized as just the way it works. Buy something, use it for a trip, take it back. There were always people who did this...but not enough to force them to change their policy. But now you can go find 20 other people on the internet who will pat you on the back for doing it (even if they are just a vocal minority) which just encourages you to do it more.

Same shit here. There were probably people who abused the service animal rules as long as they have existed...but they were careful about it. I doubt the socialites with toy "service" dogs figured it out on their own...they read about it somewhere, and then an echo-chamber helped them think it wasn't even a big deal.
post #3772 of 5119
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How does one get PTSD from breaking a leg?

Open fracture?
post #3773 of 5119
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

How does one get PTSD from breaking a leg?

Same way it triggers the development of fibromyalgia.

Otc, you're probably more or less correct. It's like how Rambo got himself banned from Amazon.
post #3774 of 5119
This isn't a dog, this is a turkey. It's ridiculous on its face.
post #3775 of 5119

imagine if in caveman times our ancestors were squatting around primordial fires. and then formed a symbiotic inter specie bond with... wild turkeys?

and how do you first-name a turkey anyways?

post #3776 of 5119
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Originally Posted by double00 View Post

imagine if in caveman times our ancestors were squatting around primordial fires. and then formed a symbiotic inter specie bond with... wild turkeys?
and how do you first-name a turkey anyways?

Kevin
post #3777 of 5119
Dinner.
post #3778 of 5119
Considering it's impossible to potty train a bird I hope that wasn't a long flight.
Edited by Jr Mouse - 1/17/16 at 7:26am
post #3779 of 5119
I used to work on the killing floor at Jennie-O. Turkeys are disgusting, fowl creatures.
post #3780 of 5119
Thread Starter 
Racism is at work here on more than one level:

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/prediabetes/basics/tests-diagnosis/con-20024420

So this is the Mayo Clinic talking about risk factors for Type 2 diabetes.
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Are African-American, Hispanic, American Indian, Asian-American or a Pacific Islander

So basically being anything but white is a risk factor.
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