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post #3481 of 5117
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Is Chicago about to become the next Ferguson?
post #3482 of 5117
Chicago?

Have you looked at Minneapolis?
post #3483 of 5117
I think Turkey is about to become the next Ferguson.
post #3484 of 5117
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

Chicago?

Have you looked at Minneapolis?

Yup, there too apparently. The Chicago comment was in regards to the video footage that is apparently about to get released from a 2014 police shooting.
post #3485 of 5117
I mean, protesters have been camped outside the police station for days now.

The incident itself seems like one of those issues where the initial description sounds terrible (cops shoot guy in handcuffs) but the courts will probably find that the officers were justified (dude was not in handcuffs, actually grabbed gun, whatever). People won't know what to do with their anger and will refuse to believe the official finding...etc.

And just last night some supposed white supremacists shot some of the protesters. Of course the headline reads "white supremacists shoot protesters" but I saw a video where some of the protesters claim that people had punched the supremacists in the face and a crowd was chasing them. If that's true, then their shooting will also be found justified (I mean, you're an asshat to bring a gun with you to go harass emotional protestors, but if people start punching you in the face and an angry mob is chasing you, I suspect that the self defense law will be on your side) so it will be a double whammy of angry protesters.
post #3486 of 5117
From what I gather of the Chicago shooting, the kid was slashing tires on cop cars and was shot while brandishing a knife.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Yup, there too apparently. The Chicago comment was in regards to the video footage that is apparently about to get released from a 2014 police shooting.

People who have seen the video are also expecting first degree murder charges though...so while the video might make people mad, they will be getting some retribution.
post #3488 of 5117
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

And just last night some supposed white supremacists shot some of the protesters. Of course the headline reads "white supremacists shoot protesters" but I saw a video where some of the protesters claim that people had punched the supremacists in the face and a crowd was chasing them. If that's true, then their shooting will also be found justified (I mean, you're an asshat to bring a gun with you to go harass emotional protestors, but if people start punching you in the face and an angry mob is chasing you, I suspect that the self defense law will be on your side) so it will be a double whammy of angry protesters.

Also the claim that the people were actually white supremacists seems to be questionable. And there have apparently been lots of gunshots at these protests already, though apparently no one else has been hit.
post #3489 of 5117
Thread Starter 
Guiz, all whites are supremacists if they're not SJWs. Get a clue, morans.
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After the first few shots knocked McDonald to the ground, Van Dyke fired another volley that struck the African-American teen repeatedly as his body lay in almost a fetal position on the ground, according to the lawyers.

Police said McDonald, who had PCP in his system when he died, was behaving erratically and refusing police commands to drop a 4-inch folding knife. The police union has maintained the officer fired in fear of his life because the teen lunged at him and his partner with the knife. Van Dyke's lawyer also has said the officer feared for his life.

Not stopping shooting fast enough when someone just lunged at you with a knife is manslaughter at the worst.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Not stopping shooting fast enough when someone just lunged at you with a knife is manslaughter at the worst.

nice job chopping the sentence that came right before your quote:
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Van Dyke is shown on a dash-cam video jumping out of his squad car and within seconds unloading 16 rounds into 17-year-old McDonald, lawyers for McDonald's family have said.

I haven't seen the video and I haven't really been following the case that closely...but unless there were other people in danger, I can't see how leaping from your squad car guns blazing is appropriate or effective policing.
post #3492 of 5117
Yeah, this was a righteous shooting, that's why the city was wiling to pay $5 million before the family even filed a lawsuit.
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

nice job chopping the sentence that came right before your quote:
I haven't seen the video and I haven't really been following the case that closely...but unless there were other people in danger, I can't see how leaping from your squad car guns blazing is appropriate or effective policing.

Appropriate or effective isn't the question.

Plus I'm not sure what your point is supposed to be. Do you not think "seconds" is long enough to threaten someone with a knife?
post #3494 of 5117
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

Yeah, this was a righteous shooting, that's why the city was wiling to pay $5 million before the family even filed a lawsuit.

Yeah, and Obama "settled" the black farmers case with a bunch of people who were never even farmers. De Blasio "settled" the central park joggers case, paying off people who confessed.

You ought to know as well as anyone the real calculus for these settlements.
post #3495 of 5117
Before a suit is filed? No, that's not how it works. You know that.
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