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post #2281 of 5129
You love trolling DU. Secretly a liberal at heart.
post #2282 of 5129
"other group oppression issues."

I love it.
post #2283 of 5129
Thread Starter 
This is an awesome read. Some starts a thread with facts, logic, and explains the simple concept of "median income." Heads explode.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026750894
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I hate that DU allows people to put a comment in the title. It makes it hard to read. My favorite exchange is when a guy claims NAFTA forced women into the workplace.

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In 1974 the female labor participation rate was 36% or so. In 1994 it was 62%, and it's 63% today.

The transition to two-income families happened before NAFTA

Guy responds with "your stats prove I'm right"
post #2285 of 5129
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Did you notice how many times he had to explain what 'median income' is and how many times he had to explain the Bill Gates of the world do not move the median? Or how many times he was told, "Sure we make more money now, BUT INFLATION!!!" and had to keep explaining "real dollar?"
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Did you notice how many times he had to explain what 'median income' is and how many times he had to explain the Bill Gates of the world do not move the median? Or how many times he was told, "Sure we make more money now, BUT INFLATION!!!" and had to keep explaining "real dollar?"

I wish he would have linked to facts that show the average household size has actually been shrinking lately. He said "I think households are getting smaller because of more young people," but he didn't link to something like this: http://www.statista.com/statistics/183648/average-size-of-households-in-the-us/
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Surprise! Whites killed by cops at a rate grossly out of proportion to their share of serious violent crime, blacks less, vast majority of those killed by cops are armed. Of course the WaPo doesn't mention how often people commit violent crimes for reference, and it makes a feeble attempt to spin the statistics, but the tone of the article is almost resigned. Notice how especially egregious they are when they lump together unarmed and "carrying a toy gun" as if those were remotely comparable.

So far this year, 385 fatal shootings by cops, less than 13% of those shot ultimately found to be unarmed. Only about 25% of those killed by cops were black, overall. Non-hispanic whites almost half.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/fatal-police-shootings-in-2015-approaching-400-nationwide/2015/05/30/d322256a-058e-11e5-a428-c984eb077d4e_story.html?tid=pm_national_pop_b

ETA: obviously I posted this in the wrong thread.
Edited by Ataturk - 5/31/15 at 7:27am
post #2288 of 5129
Totally fine to murder 45 unarmed people per year.
post #2289 of 5129
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

Totally fine to murder 45 unarmed people per year.

If they had just complied with police orders...no matter how conflicting or irrational said orders might be.

That's what always gets me...when you see a video of two or more cops yelling two or more commands at someone with guns drawn. How do you decide which order to obey?
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

If they had just complied with police orders...no matter how conflicting or irrational said orders might be.

That's what always gets me...when you see a video of two or more cops yelling two or more commands at someone with guns drawn. How do you decide which order to obey?

By that time, you're fucked. That's why you should never call the police.
post #2291 of 5129
45 people who turned out to be unarmed after the smoke cleared and the lights were turned on, you mean. And that's assuming they're not cases like Mike Brown, where the person shot was so physically imposing that he presented a mortal danger without a weapon.

Plus it's more like a hundred since that data is only for half the year.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

45 people who turned out to be unarmed after the smoke cleared and the lights were turned on, you mean. And that's assuming they're not cases like Mike Brown, where the person shot was so physically imposing that he presented a mortal danger without a weapon.

Plus it's more like a hundred since that data is only for half the year.

Good point on the second paragraph.

Not sure why cops are consistently held to a lower standard of self-defense than a regular civilian.
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“Educators are looking for strategies to hold youth accountable while keeping them in the classroom and engaged in school,” the grant said. “One such strategy is the school-based youth court. In this program, pro-social youth occupy all the court roles: jury, judge, prosecutor, defender, and clerk/bailiff. Offenders have their case heard and receive a peer-imposed sentence, usually some type of community service.”

“School-based youth courts have been implemented in over 400 sites nationally,” the grant continued. “However, despite their popularity, there has been no rigorous study of their effectiveness. This project proposes a national impact study of the four most common school-based youth court models.”

The study will cost taxpayers $1,836,976 to study different types of youth courts, which can be run through a school or partnership with a juvenile justice program or community group.

One thousand participants will be included in the study, which will analyze the “moderating effects of race/ethnicity and gender.”

“As the largest and most ambitious randomized trial ever conducted of school-based youth courts, this study will greatly contribute to knowledge about the efficacy of school based youth courts,” the grant said. “An aggressive dissemination campaign via multiple scientific and policy/practice channels is proposed.”


I can't imagine how this would go wrong.

As a thought experiment, which high school clique would you have unjustly targeted if given the chance? I'd have gone after the band geeks. They were truly pathetic people.
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I would have targeted the religious freaks.
post #2295 of 5129
The rednecks that loved flying the Confederate flag.

That never made sense to me since we went to high school in Wisconsin.
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