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post #1996 of 5124
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Also, is the Koch money going towards the tough races? Or did they manage it horribly (sounds like they fired everyone in charge of spending it after they lost all of the elections).

These return on investment calculations are kind of silly. If they closed the gap in an election and caused the other side to spend a ton of cash or make compromises towards the center...did they really get nothing for their money? Or did the abundance of funds from the Koch brothers mean that GOP money could be spent elsewhere?

Even if they lost, they threw a ton more money into politics and forced the other side to do the same (and probably encouraged the other side's donors to throw more money on the fire). This covers a lot of ad buys, but it also pays the salaries of a bunch of party and campaign workers whose sole focus is winning. Money spent on a sitting politician's staff is arguably for the benefit of the country...campaign money is about winning (even if it becomes apparent that your guy is bad for the country, it is your job to try and win), and when one guy loses, it means his half of the spending all goes into the garbage.
Mostly just free associating here, but I remember during a past election season turning on the TV and encountering some talking heads show where the election campaign was being discussed by two purported experts.
Those two experts were Susan Estrich, who ran the Dukakis campaign, and Pat Buchanan's sister, who ran his campaign. Totally made my day.

It was like watching Tim Tebow and Ryan Leaf be offered up as experts on playing quarterback in the NFL.
post #1997 of 5124
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It was like watching Tim Tebow and Ryan Leaf be offered up as experts on playing quarterback in the NFL.

Apt. And golden.
post #1998 of 5124
Political punditry is the only profession where one can be an abject failure at all aspects of life and still enjoy great esteem and ample career opportunities.
post #1999 of 5124
It is what makes America great.
post #2000 of 5124
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Political punditry is the only profession where one can be an abject failure at all aspects of life and still enjoy great esteem and ample career opportunities.

You haven't met many judges.
post #2001 of 5124
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Political punditry is the only profession where one can be an abject failure at all aspects of life and still enjoy great esteem and ample career opportunities.

I look forward to seeing our own Conne on MSNBC.
post #2002 of 5124
So remember yesterday when the Kochs were 100% Walker and going to spend trillions to get him elected and ruin America? Well, today comes an interview with the Kochs that say they aren't supporting anyone yet. However, they are planning to get involved in the primary, but they haven't decided who to support yet.
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"What we've told them all is that right now, we're not supporting anyone," Koch said. "We're telling them that if they want our support, one way to get it is articulating a good message to help Americans get a better understanding and a better appreciation of how certain policies … will benefit them and will benefit all America."

www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/04/21/charles-koch-republican-candidates-2016/26142001/

Edit: It is also interesting that the $1B thrown around, only $300M is planned to be spent directly on electoral politics.

The other thing is, I don't understand why this is necessarily a bad thing. Most of the people who complain about the Kochs complain that it is a 2 party system and there is no competition. If an outside group is willing to spend as much as one of the parties, doesn't that open the possibility for other ideas to get out there?
post #2003 of 5124
My daily musing: How will LGTB change college sports?

Title IX and transitive identity politics will now ensure that women's athletic teams will be made up of men. Bring on women's football.
post #2004 of 5124
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post

My daily musing: How will LGTB change college sports?

Title IX and transitive identity politics will now ensure that women's athletic teams will be made up of men. Bring on women's football.

I've always been fine with that. Also with chemical enhancements and robotic enhancements.

Although I have to admit I don't really see the benefit of keeping professional sports entertainers in college instead of just sending them to professional sports where they belong. It's not like they really get a degree that means anything.
post #2005 of 5124
Happy Earth Day 2015!!!

EDIT -

Earth Day 2015 demands.
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Establish the right of every citizen to plan his family.
Establishment of a federal environmental advocacy agency.
Halt pollution of our seas—moratorium on Outer Continental Shelf oil drilling.
Establish a national environmental education program encompassing pre-school through college.
Divert money from interstate highway construction to public transportation.
National land use planning so as to “halt the chaotic unplanned combination of urban sprawl and industrial expansion.” This included a ban on strip mining and the filling of wetlands. In addition, he wanted to expand national parks and other reserves.
Establish a national minerals and resource policy—change the mining law of 1872.
Establish a nonpartisan national environmental political organization.
Establish a national air and water quality policy.

All reasonable people agree.
Edited by Harold falcon - 4/23/15 at 9:06am
post #2006 of 5124
Remember that brief moment in time when Begley was actually known for being an actor?
post #2007 of 5124
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Remember that brief moment in time when Begley was actually known for being an actor?

No.
post #2008 of 5124
You fucking idiots. You wanted "net neutrality", you got it.
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If the SAVE amendment ultimately passes—the whole trafficking package now goes to the U.S. House—it would go against decades of precedent related to web publishers and user-generated content. In general, the owners of websites and online publications cannot be held criminally liable for the things that random people post. Under the new rules, however, these entities could be charged as sex traffickers if it turns out any trafficking victims are advertised on the site. Sponsors have specifically stated that their intent is to shut down, or at least seriously cripple, the classified-ad site Backpage.com.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/178/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Justice+for+Victims+of+Trafficking%22%5D%7D

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LET THE GOVERNMENT DO THINGS.
post #2009 of 5124
I have been saying it since the start that Net Neutrality is a backdoor for SOPA and PIPA.
post #2010 of 5124
I've spent the last hour reading about Gary Johnson.
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